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Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8


Hopachi

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#41
By if it's listed in your UEFI/BIOS or not. You could also read your motherboard's manual about it's UEFI/BIOS to see if it's available.

Here's some more info about this. :)

Designing for PCs that boot faster than ever before - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
Thank you for the article Shawn.

Windows 8 has a problem – it really can boot up too quickly.
This is true: I see it daily. But still managed to get in BIOS. :D ..once after 3 attempts..
But I like it this way messages delay is set to 0seconds and it's a very short BIOS time in general (Task Manager shows that nicely).

I have swapfile.sys on disk and hybrid boot is on.
But after shutdown, I start up the machine and the boot has the same speed as when in normal shutdown (measured).
Going to Task Manager to check the system up-time reveals always about 1 minute, right after boot.

So I guess it's not working in my (strange?) case.

I'm still looking at settings and all sort of articles and I'll definitely post back some results if (hopefully) it gets fixed.:)
I was thinking to reset some settings, maybe delete swapfile and re-enable it. Maybe installing a Win8 test install in a VHD besides the original one just to see if default settings work better. I'm still thinking about this.:think:


But before I'll start changing some settings I'd like to say something that may have importance in the matter:
I used the right click Hybrid ShutDown shortcut you have added here in a tutorial a few times. It's basically the -hybrid switch in the command prompt. But once it took more than 1hour to shut down and when I went back in the room it wasn't off yet so I forced stopped the pc (long-hold on power button). I don't know why it happened but the power on later didn't noticed anything wrong and went directly to start screen (normally). Maybe this was one of the (longest) failed hybrid boots that can happen and it maybe has something to do with the issue I'm facing but I'm not sure.

Thanks
Hopachi
 

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#42
Hopachi,

It sounds like you may had something hanging at shut down. Possibly some program that's not playing nice.
 

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#43
Hopachi,

It sounds like you may had something hanging at shut down. Possibly some program that's not playing nice.

I'll try to investigate it.
Dire Straits - Private Investigations. :)

I think I'll begin looking in Event Viewer. Not all HP programs were removed in my case, and I got many Intel services installed.


Thanks a lot!
Hopachi
 

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LM2007

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#44
I have it enabled, but i don't see an improvement in boot speed and i remember that when i installed the beta the boot time was amazing, like 8 or 10 seconds. But the final version takes 20 seconds to 25, a time that i experienced before with Win 7, so is a strange issue with the final version? i have not read any official statement from Microsoft.
I got the same thing here. (IF) It is simply not working and that you can tell by looking into Task Manager -> Processor:
-see the up-time of the system.

Right after boot I see about 1 minute all the time, but when it worked (unfortunately other pc with clean install) I had about 6 days up-time because the counter doesn't reset after hybrid-boot. This boot was around 20seconds on IDE HDD + classic BIOS.

The new system has SATA and UEFI.
Too bad the SATA doesn't beat IDE in my case...

Still looking at all kind of settings and documentation.
Funny mine says 9 hours 31 up time and the boot is not good.
 

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#45
Funny mine says 9 hours 31 up time and the boot is not good.
But that means is working! :D

You most probably also have the swapfile.sys on the Windows drive (usually C: drive).

On the other hand, your Core 2 Solo and the (I'm guessing) HDD have to do the load work but they seem to be not that fast nowadays.

My HDD is 5400rpm and a 70seconds boot is the maximum Win8 gives.
 

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    Windows 10 x64
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    HP Envy DV6 7250
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    Intel i7-3630QM
    Motherboard
    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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    IDT HD Audio
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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#46
15 seconds to login screen... 5 when resuming from standby.
 

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#47
15 seconds to login screen... 5 when resuming from standby.
So did you found the "fast startup" then?

Yes, here 5 when resuming from standby as well, and... 83 seconds to login screen when booting.

It sounds like you may had something hanging at shut down.
I'm still looking... Event Viewer has many messages and I don't know the best log section where to look.
Some entries say database timeout msiexec.exe... others report corrupted install of hpdskflt....

Seems a new BIOS is released recently for my laptop, version F. 22. The one thing that looks interesting in the changelog is this:
- Fixes an intermittent issue where pressing the power button for 4 seconds to force the system to shutdown causes the system to stop functioning and display a black screen when the system is powered on (rebooted).
Another thing is even a shorter BIOS time.
It's HP Envy DV6 7250.

I've already applied it.
The menu options are the same still no fast boot but at least one possible system hang is out of the way now.:)
 

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    HP, Intel HM77 Express Chipset
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    16GB
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    Intel HD4000 + Nvidia Geforce 630M
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    IDT HD Audio
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    15.6' built-in + Samsung S22D300 + 17.3' LG Phillips
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tommygun

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#48
Just a Question

Hi.
I've just disabled the "Fast Startup" option to see if it makes a difference and I noticed that the shutdown is faster, but the startup is as fast as it was before with "Fast Startup" enabled, maybe even a tiny bit faster (20-25 sec. until the Start screen is up).
Could someone please have a look at the attached capture and tell me if this is configured properly.
As you can see I changed the power button from sleep to shutdown which should be alright I guess.
Thanks in advance,

Capture.jpg
 
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wins

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#49
Even for me Fast Startup enabled does not make much difference in startup time. I prefer to hibernate fully which reduces by about half the time it takes for normal startup.
 

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#50
You really won't notice much if any difference with "Fast Startup" turned on unless you have an UEFI motherboard with it turned on in the UEFI settings as well.

A lot if this really depends on the hardware.
 
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#51
how do we determine if we have a UEFI enabled motherboard?
 

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    unknown.
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    6gb
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    Intel® HD Graphics 4000
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#52

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    64-bit Windows 10
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus X Code Z370
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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#53
how do I find my motherboard's specs?
 

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    Sony US-SVE141290X-LBOM
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    3rd gen Intel® Core™ i3-3110M processor (2.40GHz)
    Motherboard
    unknown.
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    6gb
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    Intel® HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    integrated
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    1366x768
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    fios 15/5

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#54
If this is for your Sony SVE141290X, then it appears that it's not clear since the link at Sony doesn't mention UEFI.

Sony eSupport - SVE141290X - Support

If it's a new computer that came with Windows 8 preinstalled, then it most likely has a UEFI firmware chip.

One way to tell is to boot into your UEFI or BIOS. If it has nice UI type screen like below, then it's UEFI. Another way is to read the boot screen during boot to see if has a UEFI firmware version listed instead of a BIOS version.

 

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    Custom self built
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    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus X Code Z370
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
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    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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    Logitech wireless K800
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    Internet Explorer 11
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    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
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    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
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    Arris SB6190 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone

wins

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#55
Motherboard unknown.
You should also be able to find your motherboard make and model from System Info.

Type msinfo32.exe in Run.....under System Summary check System Manufacturer and System Model.

With that information you can find out more detailed specs from the manufacturer website ...or just search in google.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8 x64
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    Home built
    CPU
    Intel Core2 Quad Q8400 2.66GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    4GB
    Hard Drives
    ( WD Black 1TB ) x 2
#56
no gui like what brink posted, but it says my bios mode is UEFI? and that it is secure boot enabled...
 

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  • OS
    windows 8 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Sony US-SVE141290X-LBOM
    CPU
    3rd gen Intel® Core™ i3-3110M processor (2.40GHz)
    Motherboard
    unknown.
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    integrated
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    1x @500gb
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    fios 15/5

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#57
It has UEFI, and is enabled then. :)
 

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    64-bit Windows 10
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus X Code Z370
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    300 Mb/s Download and 30 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB6190 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone
#58
thanks brink!
 

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  • OS
    windows 8 64 bit
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Sony US-SVE141290X-LBOM
    CPU
    3rd gen Intel® Core™ i3-3110M processor (2.40GHz)
    Motherboard
    unknown.
    Memory
    6gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4000
    Sound Card
    integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    integrated
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    1x @500gb
    Internet Speed
    fios 15/5

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#59
You're welcome mate. :)
 

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    Custom self built
    CPU
    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS Maximus X Code Z370
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    300 Mb/s Download and 30 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB6190 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone
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#60
You are awesome man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cool::what:
 

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    Dual DDR3 SDRAM 4GB 1333MHz
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