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Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8


ahh ok. thank you very much Brink. i didn't even notice the word variation... whoops! :eek: thank you for the clarification. so from what i provided, you would say that i have fast boot disabled with hibernation off of course? that's good to hear since it is lightening fast imo already to startup i thought, oh no! - but i agree with others that have said i would much rather have a "solid" or more complete boot and wait the extra time, than have a hybrid type of method.

this is one of the very few times that i have had any trouble since going with windows 8.1 x64, i have to say that i'm pleasantly surprised with how good it is. i honestly wouldn't go back to 7 now.

thanks again for your help Brink! much appreciated :)
 

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You're most welcome Menace.

Yeah, if Fast Startup and Fast Boot work without issue for you, then they'll make startup a whole lot faster when both enabled. :)
 

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Brink, just to clarify...

i actually have always had hibernation disabled ever since it was introduced so long ago, so that must mean that i have never had fast startup enabled - so it couldn't be the cause of any issues i am having with occasional sudden reboots? (hibernation can't be on without fast startup disabled?)

thank you :D
 

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Hi Shawn thanks for another tutorial that brought something to my attention(read it after seeing menace97's & your conversation in new posts yesterday). I have been wondering why my PC takes around 31 seconds to boot when I'm using an SSD(boot time from event viewer) and others with HDD's boot in 10 seconds or less. Then I saw this it the tutorial:

If you shut down from the WIN+X menu in Windows 8.1, it will perform a full shutdown instead of a hybrid shutdown even if you have Fast Startup turned on.
I use that sometimes, but usually FN+F8 on my Logitech K330 keyboard which I now believe(know actually) uses the WIN+X shutdown version.
I thought I'd tell you, for future reference, when trouble shooting with others;).
Oh yeah it now only needs 3 seconds.. 10 times faster!!!
 

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Thank you Cliff. :)
 

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Yeah, I was just saying if. :)

For your issue, you might see if troubleshooting with a clean biit may help to ID the culprit.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/23382-troubleshoot-problem-clean-boot-windows-8-a.html
Excellent Brink. thanks again. For a couple of days I didn't have any issues, then the random restarts started happening again, so I will definitely check out your tutorial for checking for a clean boot in Windows 8.

I seem to be getting often now, but only recently:
  • Error Event ID 41 Task 63
  • Error Event ID 10110 (User-Mode Drivers & Hosting Process)
 

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Hello,
Please advise does the information re WIN+X menu in Windows 8.1, perform a full shutdown instead of a hybrid shutdown even if you have Fast Startup turned on Published by Brink 20 May 2012 still stand today.

I thought I read there was a Windows Update (maybe over a year ago) that unified all W8/8.1 shutdown buttons/methods to be under the influence of Fast Startup. (with Fast Startup On)
I though I read only Restart and command line were not now under the influence of Fast Startup. (with Fast Startup On)

Do you recall changes to W8/8.1 shutdown that I may be confusing with how to bypass Fast Startup to achieve full shutdown.
I though W8/8.1 was changed by a Windows Update to be in-line with actually the current W10 Fast Startup rules.
I thought this (as I remember) Windows Update was like a pre-cursor to how W10 handles Fast Startup influence on shutdown.

Seems like to my memory M$ was testing future W10 Fast Startup by incorporating same into W8.1.

For example on Win 8/8.1, you could right click on the Start button and choose Shutdown, and the system would fully shut down. Now with Win 10, all shutdown options use hybrid shutdown. The only way to get the full shutdown on Win 10 is to use the Restart option, or disable Fast Startup.

I though W8.1 changed at some point to the only way to get full shutdown on W8.1 was to use the Restart option, or disable Fast Startup.

Please comment and correct me. Thank you!
 

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Hello bjm, :)

I'm not sure either, but you can test after turning on the computer from a shutdown by copying and pasting the command below in PowerShell, and pressing Enter.

Code:
$boot = Get-WinEvent -ProviderName Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-boot -MaxEvents 10 | Where-Object {$_.message -like “The boot type*”}; $boot| format-list

Boot type 0×1 indicates a hybrid boot, 0×0 indicates a cold boot (full shut down), and 0x2 indicates a resume from hibernation.

I'll create a tutorial for this later, and post back a link for it when finished.

UPDATE: Boot - Check if from Hybrid, Full, or Hibernate in Windows 8 and 10 - Windows 10 Forums
 
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Good day Brink,
That's so COOL !!!

Thanks
 

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You're most welcome. Please let us know what your findings are. :)
 

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Good day Brink,

Shutdown Settings > Fast Startup checked + Hibernate checked
1) WinX > Shutdown = 0x0
2) Charms > Start > Power Options > Shut down = 0x1
3) Start Menu > Shut Down = 0x1

Shutdown Settings > Fast Startup checked + Hibernate not checked
1) WinX > Shutdown = 0x0
2) Charms > Start > Power Options > Shut down = 0x0
3) Start Menu > Shut Down = 0x0

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Thank you bjm. It looks like Win+X shutdown is still always a full shut down.
I'm surprised that having hibernate check or unchecked would have any bearing on fast startup. It was presented to only either have Hibernate show (checked) or hide (unchecked) in the Power menu. Is this the settings you are referring to? http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/2658-power-options-menu-add-remove-sleep-hibernate-windows-8-a.html
Yes, Image at number 3 at above link. I was curious regarding Hibernate > "Show in Power menu".
Perhaps Fast Startup is dependent on Hibernate while Hibernate is not dependent on Fast Startup.
W8.1 Power Management is not their finest work.
I've had Fast Startup and Hibernate unchecked from day one.
I became curious by reading about W10.
Yes, Win+X shutdown is still always a full shut down.
As always YMMV
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Hello, I found I am not abled to check/uncheck the Turn on fast startup box, it says "Some setting are managed by your system administrator"
Please check below screenshot and please help! Thanks so much!
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You're most welcome. I'm glad it could help. :)
 

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    Logitech MX Master
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    300 Mb/s Download and 30 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB6190 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone