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Identifying partitions on HP Pavilion 15 HDD for SSD image

  1. #11


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    Go to control panel - recovery - create a recovery drive.. That is your factory recovery image - with the recovery media, you just created, we can edit one file (due to SSD size change) and write the factory image to your SSD in perfect alignment

    once you create that media / in the sources folder / will be *resetconfig.xml / you need to open with notepad and edit

    <MinSize>65536</MinSize>

    as your number will be the size of your present HDD - so you need to lower the minimum Drive size to fit your SSD

    65536 represents a 64GB drive size minimum, which means it will now restore to your 120GB SSD

    Note - unplug your old drive when doing the recovery reset - so as not to reset or select the wrong drive..

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  2. #12


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1


    I will bear that in mind - but a slight complication -
    I was told I could adjust the size of partitions by clicking and sliding on Macrium Reflect, so installed it, at which point it analysed the computer -- but the curious thing is that there is yet another partition that has appeared in this analysis, which wasnt there on Disk Management. No name, 128gb. Something else - any ideas?
    What I would do is click to image the WinRe, UEFI and WIndows C partitions then before placing them on the SSD, click and slide to bring Drive C down to the size of the SSD.
    Or indeed make it cover only the OS and create a new partition for apps, as advised by HP support.Click image for larger version
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  3. #13


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    UEFI uses 4 partitions.. plus 1 more oem made partition 5

    winre
    uefi
    ms reserved
    windows
    oem recovery

    so far still no problem at all..

    I have given you the best, fastest and easiest possible solution to installing a smaller SSD..

    Or you could go to the SSD mfg's website and download their migration tool

    You are going to play with something and knock something out, then will be asking even more questions

    create a recovery drive - first - before doing any testing........
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  4. #14


    Penn's Forest
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    Damaha, what model pavilion 15 do you have?
    Pavilion 15 Laptops | HP® Official Store

    This is the closest I could come based on your specs (please also update your specs with the full model information)
    HP Pavilion - 15z Beats Special Edition Touch Laptop | HP® Official Store

    HP Search Pavilion 15
    More than 300 products contain the term "pavilion 15".

    Thanks.

    I agree with KYHI - create a recovery drive BEFORE proceeding.

    Don't over think this - I read your thread opener again and all you want to do is install an SSD - right.

    Easy - let Windows do the thinking - too much reading confuses people

    It's always good to ask questions, just try not to solve this in your head. This is pretty standard practice and if you have everything prepared (data backups, configuration information - logins and passwords, license keys for your programs, install media for your programs....) it is a no brainer.


    1) Create your recovery drive to back up your data. This is redundant since you'll also have the HDD. But as KYHI says - better to have more than none.

    Damaha: also as I have Recovery USB provided by the retailer.. This is good ... #2 is better.
    I'm not sure you need the recovery drive then - If the Recovery USB is the factory restore - you don't (following my method)

    2) Create install media
    Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 ISO - Download or Create
    3) pull out the existing drive
    4) install the SSD
    5) install Windows 8 using media created in step 2

    Let Windows update everything (run WU manually if necessary)

    Install any missing drivers from the HP support page - most will be provided by Windows Update

    Install your favorite programs.

    Purchase a USB enclosure for the HDD and you have a backup plus it's easy to copy your data to the new SSD if you choose.

    Really easy!

    Note: you lose the ability to restore to factory settings (HP recovery), but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
    You have the recovery drive if you ever really want to restore to factory
    but you also have the Win8 media you created in Step2

    You have the native push button refresh and restore in Win8 - that's what really counts.

    Think about the direction you want to take and either KYHI or I can walk your though it.

    Bill
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    Last edited by Slartybart; 13 Feb 2015 at 08:55.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1


    Thanks very much for the advice. This sounds like the best way.
    I have a HP Pavilion 15 p158sa -
    This may not be a US model - but it is here : HP Pavilion Notebook - 15-p158sa (ENERGY STAR) | HP® Support
    A clean re-install would be good. I bought Office 2013 a few weeks ago but still have the licence key somewhere I think. But perhaps I can copy the Office files over from my HDD back to a new app partition I'd create on the SSD.
    Otherwise all my data is on the cloud, and the apps are all re-installable - perhaps nice to copy them over as they have the settings etc I've set up.
    The only qualm is whether there are some features of the set-up unique to HP Pavilion 15s which I would lose - I have a touch screen, but i guess Windows 8.1 senses that.
    I am tempted to try out my retailer's recovery USB to see what happens if I get up to the boot screen. I can't go any further as I don't have the SSD yet - in the post. Can I create another recovery disk if Windows is already on this one - isn't there some rule you can only do one recovery disk?
    All best and thanks again for great advice.
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  6. #16


    Penn's Forest
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    Thanks for the model number and the link - that's a big help.

    A clean reinstall is the best! You won't be sorry, I was a bit nervous the first time, but now I'm an advocate, especially in cases like yours where the drive is being replaced or updated.


    Q: I bought Office 2013 a few weeks ago but still have the licence key somewhere I think.
    A: That's what you'll need - find the box, the envelope or the slip of paper that has the key on it. You will need it.

    Q:But perhaps I can copy the Office files over from my HDD back to a new app partition I'd create on the SSD.
    A: Nope, you need the key and need to install it on the new drive. Data files can be copied, but the license information is stored in the registry and can't be copied.

    Q: Otherwise all my data is on the cloud, and the apps are all re-installable
    - perhaps nice to copy them over as they have the settings etc I've set up.
    A: I thought about that - thanks for confirming data is in the cloud.
    Part of your prep work can be to export the configurations for you applications. Some make it easy, some do it in pieces, and some you just have to write down.

    Q: The only qualm is whether there are some features of the set-up unique to HP Pavilion 15s which I would lose - I have a touch screen, but i guess Windows 8.1 senses that.
    A: Yes, but you or I can check the HP support site for downloads. Most if not all of the device drivers will be loaded by Windows Update (WU). You only need to check device manager to see if there are any missing drivers. Those you can get from HP.

    Q: I am tempted to try out my retailer's recovery USB to see what happens if I get up to the boot screen. I can't go any further as I don't have the SSD yet - in the post.
    A: Please wait until you have the clean drive to play with. The HP recovery might not confirm "Do you really want to ..."
    If it doesn't confirm, then your programs and configurations will be lost (factory restore wipes the drive)

    Q: Can I create another recovery disk if Windows is already on this one - isn't there some rule you can only do one recovery disk?
    A: Let me make sure I have your inventory correct:
    (1) HDD with HP Recovery partition
    (1) HP Recovery drive that you purchased separately

    You have not created an HP recovery set from the HDD yet (discs vs. thumb drive discussion)
    You have not created a Recovery drive per KYHI's suggestion.

    I know this gets very confusing - so many recovery terms. Try sorting it out
    HP Recovery - factory reset: is the media to restore Win8 + HP bloat
    -> on HDD partition and can be created on media (disc or thumb drive (rec))
    ->->You can only create it once from the HDD, but you can use it as many times as needed
    ->->->I think you have this - you bought something from HP and it sounds like it was the next recovery thingy

    HP Recovery drive: same as the HDD partition, HP created a copy for you and charged you for the device and the service.

    Win8 Recovery: Utility or Utility and media to refresh or restore Win8 - no OEM bloat. Depends on how the OEM implements recovery.

    WinRE (Windows Recovery Environment): bootable mini-Windows with some native base components to repair or install Windows.

    You're welcome ... take your time, prepare and don't test on live data without a backup - better yet, don't test on live data

    Bill
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  7. #17


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    Windows 8.1


    Hey thanks so much, that's great - very useful answers! A clean re-install sounds great.
    I have my Office key, so that's ok
    I am pretty sure I have a full Recovery drive which I purchased from PC World in the UK for £35 (wanted to create my own really but they only had 'pre-set' stock available, i.e. they'd packaged a recovery USB with the unit. I think this is the one and I won't be able to create another - found in manual page below a line on that)
    I just looked at the HP manual for the Pavilion 15 - interesting page here on the Recovery Drive. It seems there's an option for 'Minimised Image Recovery' on booting the Recovery drive which is just the Operating System and nothing else - no other apps - sounds pretty much a clean install... If I plug the Recovery USB in, go into the set-up page on booting, and find this option, perhaps that's a Windows Re-install to all intents and purposes?...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Minimised Image Recovery.png  
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  8. #18


    Penn's Forest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damaha View Post
    .....
    It seems there's an option for 'Minimized Image Recovery' on booting the Recovery drive which is just the Operating System and nothing else - no other apps - sounds pretty much a clean install... If I plug the Recovery USB in, go into the set-up page on booting, and find this option, perhaps that's a Windows Re-install to all intents and purposes?...
    I believe so - that must have been added after I stopped using the HP recovery media. Good to know - thanks.

    Your choice - use the MediaCreationTool to grab the ISO and burn it to a DVD-R (not DVD-RW) or use the HP 'Minimized Image Recovery'. I suspect the drivers in the HP minimized will be out-of-date, so Windows update will still offer any newer drivers. No big deal ... it gives you a base set of drivers.

    It sounds as though all you need is the new drive and collecting the configuration settings (this might be more work than just re-entering them when you re-install the programs - that's what I do, it's routine for me to configure the programs now). How many programs on your machine really require customization? If there are only a few and you let me know what they are, I might be able to help you find the related files or find out how to export the configuration for those programs. I'll tell you now, I don't use MS Office, so I won't be much help there.

    You're getting pretty good at looking for the information needed (Pavilion 15 Manual ) - that's great! Most of the 'hard' work is preparing for the install - I think you're in very good shape. If there is something you need after the install, you can always pull it off the old drive (not always easy, but it can be done even if you have to temporarily swap the drives to export something from a program installed on that install). I don't want to focus too much on the configuration changes - they're mostly cosmetic. I do understand that it's nice to have things work the way they did before - I'm that way too.

    When the new drive arrives, post again. In the meantime do as much prep as you can.
    I don't think there's much left other than determining how to get configuration information for your programs.
    If you think of anything else - ask. If I think of anything else, I'll post it. I'll be glad to walk you through the process when you have the drive.

    Bill
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  9. #19


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    HP Recovery drive: same as the HDD partition, HP created a copy for you and charged you for the device and the service.
    This is one big assumption.. As we do not know what is actually on the HP Recovery USB..

    We do know for sure what is on the HDD recovery partition..

    Although you will still have to HDD if needed later, after setting up the SSD
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  10. #20


    Penn's Forest
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYHI View Post
    HP Recovery drive: same as the HDD partition, HP created a copy for you and charged you for the device and the service.
    This is one big assumption.. As we do not know what is actually on the HP Recovery USB..

    We do know for sure what is on the HDD recovery partition..

    Although you will still have to HDD if needed later, after setting up the SSD
    You must have missed this KYHI

    Post #7: The contents of my Recovery USB pasted below - the first screen and then the message it puts up when i click on 'Recovery'
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