Windows 8

[whs]

I think Windows 8 is one of the most freshest, newest, and best Windows releases in a very long time. It's been a whoa experience since day quite literally and every since then.

I've learned ALL the ins and outs, EVERY in and out there is to using Windows 8 with a mouse, touchpad, and touchscreen. Best thing ever!

Also, I'm finding where the area I live is highlighting the android demographic, people really don't care to learn a new OS. They just don't. I've been seeing younger people really get into the touch aspect of Windows 8, but most older folk are like, "Meh, Windows 8 is for tablets." Said someone with experience in using Windows 8... Overall though, rather fantastic. Although some of the newer PCs got a tad annoying for a while with the UEFI booting and such. Makes it a tad difficult to reinstall it...

Well, good for you. And I am sure there are many that manage as well as you do. Read my little story about the car in this thread post #154 and maybe you understand the people that are not of your opinion - and as far as I can see, those are most of the Windows users (or maybe they are just more vocal).

 

[caperjack]

@Rose and Poppygram,


---no start menu,

no red cross to close a page etc but we'll get there in the end.

Poppygran.

if i may .there a start screen,just right click on the start page and go all apps ,thats the same as going to start /all programs in win7

no red cross to close a page .
simply use the mouse, if you not using a touch screen ,point the mouse to the top of the page/app ,a hand will appear ,hold in the left mouse button and drag it to the bottom of the screen to close the app page
thats what i do anyway!i learned that over time using win8 since last August

 

[whs]

@Rose and Poppygram,


---no start menu,

no red cross to close a page etc but we'll get there in the end.

Poppygran.

if i may .there a start screen,just right click on the start page and go all apps ,thats the same as going to start /all programs in win7

no red cross to close a page .
simply use the mouse, if you not using a touch screen ,point the mouse to the top of the page/app ,a hand will appear ,hold in the left mouse button and drag it to the bottom of the screen to close the app page
thats what i do anyway!i learned that over time using win8 since last August

This is one possible solution. I go into the Task Manager from time to time and kill all the running apps that are no more needed.

The problem is that those apps were written for tablets and not for desktop PCs. In cases where this is possible (pictures, videos, etc.) I changed the default filetype association so that they open with the traditional PC applications when double clicked.

 

[caperjack]

if i may .there a start screen,just right click on the start page and go all apps ,thats the same as going to start /all programs in win7

no red cross to close a page .
simply use the mouse, if you not using a touch screen ,point the mouse to the top of the page/app ,a hand will appear ,hold in the left mouse button and drag it to the bottom of the screen to close the app page
thats what i do anyway!i learned that over time using win8 since last August

This is one possible solution. I go into the Task Manager from time to time and kill all the running apps that are no more needed.

The problem is that those apps were written for tablets and not for desktop PCs. In cases where this is possible (pictures, videos, etc.) I changed the default filetype association so that they open with the traditional PC applications when double clicked.

task manager is good place to do that for sure ,
to close multiple apps i just mouse to the top left corner and right click on the apps little tile and close it do it till they are all closed ,instead of opening them and dragging to the bottom,
i think going to task manager might be quicker some time .thanks

 

[whs]

Yeah, I think the task manager is a better solution. Working from the top left corner is a bit finagle.

 

[caperjack]

Yeah, I think the task manager is a better solution. Working from the top left corner is a bit finagle.

maybe just what ones gets use to i guess ,i use my mouse a lot ,so top corner is how i get from desktop to start when needed ,usually have a internet radio app or similar running

 

[whs]

Yeah, I think the task manager is a better solution. Working from the top left corner is a bit finagle.

maybe just what ones gets use to i guess ,i use my mouse a lot ,so top corner is how i get from desktop to start when needed ,usually have a internet radio app or similar running

The problem for PC users is that these apps were really made for tablets and have a tablet behavior - as the new Metro UI all together. If one owns a tablet (I own an Android tablet), then you are used to that behavior and can figure out more rapidly what to do.

But for people who are only used to PCs, it is quite an alien setup. No wonder they are confused and upset.

Although I can manage with Windows 8 quite well, I would not use it for my 'production systems'. It is just too odd on a PC. And if MS does not come up with something better, I will stay on Windows 7 and later go to Linux.

 

[SIW2]

Interested to hear how Rose and Poppygram are getting on.

 

[pparks1]

There just isn't really anything that awesome about Windows 8 if you ask me. The "very best" part in my opinion is the fact that it boots up faster. The "worst part" is the inconsistencies in the user interface. For example, you can bring up the start menu by hitting the Windows key on the keyboards or putting the mouse in the lower left corner, but you cannot bring up the start menu by touching a monitor unless you first pull up the charms bar and then clicking on the Start charm. Everything else is relatively the same as before.

 

[whs]

The "very best" part in my opinion is the fact that it boots up faster

From an SSD, the faster boot is very relative. If you like fast boot, watch this: Booting Windows 8 and Mint - YouTube

 

[pparks1]

The "very best" part in my opinion is the fact that it boots up faster

From an SSD, the faster boot is very relative. If you like fast boot, watch this: Booting Windows 8 and Mint - YouTube

I've been running on SSD's for a few years. My new Dell laptop boots Windows 8 from a power button press to the logon screen in just under 10 seconds. 7 was not this fast. The SSD makes a difference, and the hybrid boot makes up the rest of the difference. UEFI boot times also improve the situation over the old standard BIOS.

 

[Lee]

The "very best" part in my opinion is the fact that it boots up faster

From an SSD, the faster boot is very relative. If you like fast boot, watch this: Booting Windows 8 and Mint - YouTube

I've been running on SSD's for a few years. My new Dell laptop boots Windows 8 from a power button press to the logon screen in just under 10 seconds. 7 was not this fast. The SSD makes a difference, and the hybrid boot makes up the rest of the difference. UEFI boot times also improve the situation over the old standard BIOS.

Just got to love SSDs.

 

[whs]

Yeah right, boot time is 10 sec for /8 versus 15 sec for /7 and 4 sec for Mint.

 

[labeeman]

Yeah right, boot time is 10 sec for /8 versus 15 sec for /7 and 4 sec for Mint.

I have been using SSDs for some time now and agree with your boot up times. It is the one thing that you can upgrade to and really see the difference not just boot time.

 

[pcRat]

There just isn't really anything that awesome about Windows 8 if you ask me. The "very best" part in my opinion is the fact that it boots up faster. The "worst part" is the inconsistencies in the user interface. For example, you can bring up the start menu by hitting the Windows key on the keyboards or putting the mouse in the lower left corner, but you cannot bring up the start menu by touching a monitor unless you first pull up the charms bar and then clicking on the Start charm. Everything else is relatively the same as before.

Pin these to your desktop taskbar
"Start" Screen Shortcut - Create in Windows 8 to see regular Start Screen
&
"All Apps" Shortcut - Create in Windows 8 to see All tiles w/ smaller size

and you'll never need to Winkey or mouse lower left corner again.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
Afraid I'm not that geeky to worry about Boot times -- even in the "Old days" if boot took a long time I'd go for a coffee, beer, scotch or kick the dog or do something while the machine was booting.

However I DON'T regret in anyway whatsoever installing SSD's -- it's almost impossible to convey in figures the improvements you get even (or perhaps especially) on older systems in having SSD's. On a laptop these days even a 128 GB SSD should be enough storage as you can always use CHEAP external disks / usb drives or even micro SD cards .

On desktops if you can use several you will be absolutely amazed - especially if you are using apps like photo shop etc.

For most people --always assuming you have enough RAM - and pretty well all computers these days have at least a minimum of 4GB fitted-- you are usually FAR FAR better in fitting an SSD rather than changing the processor or adding more RAM.

Best upgrade almost I've ever done was fitting SSD's.

(On a desktop with 2 SSD's fitted -- I use one for some VM's - booting and running these VM's makes them run pretty well at NATIVE speed -- almost no delay / overhead at all).

Running a laptop --even a decent one (i7 processor in it) without an SSD -- seems sluggish and really makes a mockery of having an i7 processor in it. I haven't put one in this machine as I rarely use it now -- it's too BIG for portability and I haven't yet replaced my desktop. I'll probably donate the thing to some organisation eventually.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[DooRules]

If an ssd "just" made boot faster I would not have much interest in them at all.

IMHO they are the single best thing you can do to any system that does not use one, they make everything much quicker.

 

[LADYPINKtomato1]

I don't choose to HATE it before giving it a try..
I just want something familiar.. then after learning to use the new laptop.. I will gladly try out the NEW Things in Windows 8.

We bought these computers to use !!

YES.... If you already know how to use W8 it is much to easy to say thing as I see above.. that's one thing, as many
of you do already, it's extremely easy to snap at us FOR NOT WANTING TO HAVE Something all bright and flashy.

I for one need help with this , I want and need help trying to get around FIRST. this is supposed to be a help area.

YES I can follow instructions by asking a few needed questions as well.. as I have in W7forums, I've had wonderful people to help
me setting up my router, homegroup.. etc.

Please don't reply if you are NOT, about showing us links.. visuals, screenshots, pointing out where to find or locate needed helps. such as shared above.. that's how we learn.

Thanks to those who are willing to assist .

If I've posted in the wrong place.. ADMN. please move to where I should be

 

[whs]

(On a desktop with 2 SSD's fitted -- I use one for some VM's - booting and running these VM's makes them run pretty well at NATIVE speed -- almost no delay / overhead at all).

I use 2 SSDs like that too. The internal one for the host Windows 7 system and an external USB3 attached one for the WMware virtual systems (Windows 8, Mint, Zorin).

The advantage of the external attachment is that I can carry the virtual systems to any other PC that has VMware Player installed - e.g to my laptop when I go to the computer club for the Linux workshops or to my systems in Germany.

 

[caperjack]

YES.... If you already know how to use W8 it much to easy to say thing as I see above.. that's one thing, as many of you do already, it's extremely easy to snap at us FOR NOT WANTING TO HAVE Something all bright and flashy.

i agree ,but ,just ask for help ,state you problem and don't bad mouth Microsoft and win8 , its easy to go back to win7 if you don't like win8 ,but give it time and you to will come to like it ,I did