Num Lock on Startup Anomaly

[Nemix]

I have no input on how to fix the issue but I just wanted to say really interesting choice of words used on this thread.

 

[David Bailey]

I have no input on how to fix the issue but I just wanted to say really interesting choice of words used on this thread.

You could test my last suggestion so we could have another voice in the matter.

 

[Nemix]

Thanks for the script this could come in handy someday and the script works as it should on my laptop.

OP might have to try a clean install of Windows 8.1 if this issue is not resolved through EightForum or Microsoft, that's my only input.

 

[David Bailey]

Thanks for the script this could come in handy someday and the script works as it should on my laptop.

OP might have to try a clean install of Windows 8.1 if this issue is not resolved through EightForum or Microsoft, that's my only input.

Thanks for posting back with results.

 

[Nemix]

Is there anyway to delay the start time of a script similar to one on this thread say from 3 - 5 seconds when added to the start of Windows with Scheduled Task?

I'm asking because I want to create a script specifically for my laptop that disables my laptop's webcam (fn+esc) at every Windows start but I need the script to start after my system has loaded the hotkey software for the function keys to work on my laptop.

PS. Oh and just so you know I tried to give you a reputation but something about spreading it around did not allow me to do so...LOL

 

[David Bailey]

You could run:

sfc /scannow

and


Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

In administrator command prompts & then try the vbs script if it doesn't work the first time.

 

[David Bailey]

Is there anyway to delay the start time of a script similar to one on this thread say from 3 - 5 seconds when added to the start of Windows with Scheduled Task?

I'm asking because I want to create a script specifically for my laptop that disables my laptop's webcam (fn+esc) at every Windows start but I need script to start after my system has loaded the hotkey software for the function keys to work on my laptop.

PS. Oh and just so you know I tried to give you a reputation but something about spreading it around did not allow me to do so...LOL

I can't help with the script.
I found this one using Google.
Sorry.

Give it a few hours or a day & try the rep again.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Wynona]

I'm not sure, but could it be that only the OP can give a rep?

David gets about 60 of them from me on this subject alone.

 

[Nemix]

Thanks for the reply,

I just found the answer to my question, sometimes I'm just lazy to look up the answer myself and want to be spoon fed by another member that I think is either more knowledgeable than myself or already knows the answer to my question without having the need to research further.

 

[Wynona]

I carefully watched the numlock light when restarting.

It became active at the Welcome screen where I need to type in my password.

This keyboard doesn't have lights, so I can't tell by that.

Next trial is to get out that yucky wired keyboard that came with the computer and see if Num Lock works on it.

Edit: Oh yeah, the vbs script didn't work either.

 

[David Bailey]

I'm not sure, but could it be that only the OP can give a rep?

David gets about 60 of them from me on this subject alone.

Anybody can rep.
Just click on the tiny black thumbs-up icon.

Did you get it to work ?
I see a dancing elephant.

 

[Wynona]

Ok, I attached this wired keyboard to the puter, and at startup, the Num Lock key briefly flashed, but then went out. It was off when the computer completed its boot sequence. Once I started the password, Num Lock wasn't active.

So, I'm back to thinking it's something in Windows 8 at this point. And, since Num Lock no longer works on the other computer after installation of Win 8.1, it's inclined to agree with me.

BTW, the vbs script seems to turn Num Lock off and on, but doesn't hold true at startup.

 

[David Bailey]

Did you try sfc & dism commands ?

 

[Wynona]

Thanks for the script this could come in handy someday and the script works as it should on my laptop.

OP might have to try a clean install of Windows 8.1 if this issue is not resolved through EightForum or Microsoft, that's my only input.

I could probably do that; I've done it with both laptops. I formatted the Vista drive and installed Windows 7 Ultimate on one and did the same to Windows Home Premium that came on the other.

But then, I hesitate to mess with this one . . . Other than the Num Lock button, HP did a good job and there are things I like about it.

 

[David Bailey]

Thanks for the script this could come in handy someday and the script works as it should on my laptop.

OP might have to try a clean install of Windows 8.1 if this issue is not resolved through EightForum or Microsoft, that's my only input.

I could probably do that; I've done it with both laptops. I formatted the Vista drive and installed Windows 7 Ultimate on one and did the same to Windows Home Premium that came on the other.

But then, I hesitate to mess with this one . . . Other than the Num Lock button, HP did a good job and there are things I like about it.

It would be better to try a refresh before a clean install.
I tried to rep you but I used up my quota for today.

 

[Wynona]

Did you try sfc & dism commands ?

Oh, I thought you were giving them to Nemix. I'll try that next.

BTW, do we geeks ever sleep? I woke up and got up and came in here just to see if y'all were still awake.

Another aside: Even if the wired keyboard had worked, I'm not too sure I could give up my Logitech Wave keyboard. After typing on it for awhile, those chicklet jobbies just don't have what it takes.

 

[David Bailey]

Did you try sfc & dism commands ?

Oh, I thought you were giving them to Nemix. I'll try that next.

BTW, do we geeks ever sleep? I woke up and got up and came in here just to see if y'all were still awake.

Another aside: Even if the wired keyboard had worked, I'm not too sure I could give up my Logitech Wave keyboard. After typing on it for awhile, those chicklet jobbies just don't have what it takes.

I'm retired & sleep & wake at odd times.

EDIT-- I already repped you.I just forgot I did it.

 

[Wynona]

I'm retired & sleep & wake at odd times.

Same here. And, I think I'll go back to bed. Did sfc scannnow and the rest . . . conditions still the same.

 

[my2cents]

Hi again Wynona,

Sorry my "turn off fast boot recommendation did not work for you; however, I did some very specific testing on my UEFI 8.1 installation and here's how mine works:

TEST #1:
I have a UEFI BIOS with a Num-Lock ON/OFF Option set to ON.
With the above option set, and Win 8 Fast Startup Enabled, my Num-Lock "last key state" will be "remembered on next boot.
So, if the Num-Lock key is ON when I shutdown, it will boot as ON during the next boot.
However, if I push the Num-Lock key "OFF", it will remain OFF during the next boot.

TEST #2:
IF I go into the BIOS and toggle the Num-Lock Option to OFF and turn off Fast Startup in Windows 8.1, the Num-Lock key remains OFF on a consistent basis. Conversely, if I set it to ON, it remains ON.

If you decide to retest based on my testing, I would advise you to be patient and reboot (at least once) after changing to make sure the options have been fully set. Good luck.

my2censt

 

[Wynona]

Hi again Wynona,

Sorry my "turn off fast boot recommendation did not work for you; however, I did some very specific testing on my UEFI 8.1 installation and here's how mine works:

TEST #1:
I have a UEFI BIOS with a Num-Lock ON/OFF Option set to ON.
With the above option set, and Win 8 Fast Startup Enabled, my Num-Lock "last key state" will be "remembered on next boot.
So, if the Num-Lock key is ON when I shutdown, it will boot as ON during the next boot.
However, if I push the Num-Lock key "OFF", it will remain OFF during the next boot.

Hehehe, I've turned this computer off and on so much, the last time I turned it on there was text on the screen that said, "Lady, would you please make up your mind!? Either turn me on or off! You're making me dizzy as H E Double Toothpick! And, for the record, I'll see you in hades before I turn Num Lock on at startup for you! So there!"

So far, here's what I've done, some of them numerous times:

BIOS - Booted into BIOS, Num Lock is set to on (BTW, on HP computers, hit the Escape key about once per second to get in)
Registry - Went into Registry changed InitialKeryboardIndicators to 2 as suggested (Changed the key to 0, rebooted, back to 2 etc.)
Ease of Access - Onscreen keyboard: Turned Num Lock off on the keyboard (didn't work) turned Num Lock on on the keyboard (still didn't work)
Power Options/System Settings - Turned off Fast Startup (didn't work)
Num Lock On at Shutdown - Num Lock is always on at shutdown, but off on a reboot. (didn't work)
Updated Keyboard Drivers - Num Lock still doesn't work at startup
Numlock.vbs - all this script seems to do is turn Num Lock on or off and doesn't keep Num Lock active on reboot.
Scannow and Dism /online /cleanup-image /RestoreHealth - (didn't work)
Wired Keyboard - Attached wired keyboard that came with system and Num Lock briefly flashes, but is not active on startup
BIOS and Fast Startup- Went back into BIOS and made sure Num Lock is on (Fast Startup) is on. Num Lock key is always on when I shut down, since I have to use numbers in my password (as an accountant in the past, I'm experienced with 10-key pads)

So far, all I get is that this computer refuses to obey the built-in commands it's been given.