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Clean Install - Windows 8


Clarence

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#21
Thank Shawn for that information. I am just wondering if the AHCi/SATA/RAId drivers is installed during windows installation, are those drivers resident in the same place that they are when they're installed after windows 8 installation is complete, as in your suggestion? If so, it seems it would be all right to install them during installation and get it over with.
 

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You're welcome Clarence.

Unfortunately, loading drivers at boot during the installation only temporarily loads them into memory for setup to be able to see the drive. It doesn't install them into Windows 8. :(
 

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Clarence

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#24
Hello Shawn, alias Brink I suppose. That is a bit of information I didn't know and it is good to know that. Anyway, I am pretty confident that I'll do a one-time, do it right install as soon as some screws arrive for my cooler.

I think this is about the best windows information site on the entire net, and you're the reason.

With appreciation,

Clarence
 

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You're welcome Jamboo. :)


@Clarence,

I'm sure it'll go well. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. :)
 

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#26
Hi Shawn, I want to install Win8 on a SSD attached via eSata. I want to make sure that the Win8 BCD does not interfere with my Win7 installation but I do not want to disconnect my HDDs and SSD inside the box (too many gymnastics). What are the chances that the Win8 BCD lands on my Wiin7 OS SSD.
 

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Hello Wolfgang,

Unless you disconnect the HDDs in the case, then there's a good chance that it will be placed on your Windows 7 BCD. :(
 

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#28
Thanks Shawn, that's what I figured. Hate to crawl under the desk. That's not the kind of exercise for a 75 year old with a bad back. LOL.
 

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That's not good exercise for anyone. I think it's time to put a grand kid to use. ;)
 

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Yeah, would be nice. But my grandkids are 6000 miles away. I think I will use my Toshiba laptop instead. There it is easy to flip out the SSD. Unfortunately there I do not have eSata, only USB3. But I have been booting from that before with the Win8 to go. And I do have a USB3 open enclosure.
 

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Yeah, would be nice. But my grandkids are 6000 miles away. I think I will use my Toshiba laptop instead. There it is easy to flip out the SSD. Unfortunately there I do not have eSata, only USB3. But I have been booting from that before with the Win8 to go. And I do have a USB3 open enclosure.


There went that idea, but using the laptop is an even better one.
 

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Thanks Shawn for your continued support.

USB3 will be a bit slower than eSata, but I think it will still be good enough. I plan to use Win8 only for academic exercises - not as my main production system. I was doing quite well with the prereleases in vBox - it can't be any worse.
 

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#33
I want to install Win 8 Pro on my SSD over a Win 7 installation and avoid creating the System Reserved Partition. Can you clarify step 8? Do I:
1. Delete the partition containing Win7 first
2. Format this partition so it's not unallocated
before continuing?

In the very last step, for someone whose not very savvy, what drivers am I likely to need to update? (When I installed Win 7 about 4 years ago I didn't update any drivers and the system seemed to work ok.)

Is there any advice on the forum about managing Win 8 on a small SSD? (Too small to hold all my personal files as well as Windows.)

Many thanks
 

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If you predefine a primary active partition and install into that, you should not get the seperaste system partition.
 

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Hello Peter, and welcome to Eight Forums.

As Wolfgang posted above, since this would be dual booting, the Windows 8 installation will not create a system reserved partition since their is already an "active" Windows 7 partition.

In addition, if this is a Windows 8 upgrade copy, then see this instead.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/13375-clean-install-windows-8-upgrade.html

Hope this helps, :)
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Thanks for your replies, but I don't think I have made my intentions very clear. I was wanting to do away with Win 7 completely and move over to Win 8. Just don't want that annoying System Reserved Partition to appear.
 

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Ah, ok.

In that case, could you post a screenshot of your Disk Management (diskmgmt.msc) window first? This way we will be sure to give you accurate advice on what should be deleted.

For now, you would delete the Windows 7 partition and the "System Reservered" partition created by Windows 7 if there to leave the Windows 7 disk unallocated. You would then format the unallocated space, and select it to install Windows 8 to. Windows 8 will not create a "System Reservered" partition when installed to an already formatted drive, or a drive that already has partitions on it.
 

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Here's a screenshot of disk management.
You will see that there is no System Reserved Partition - I followed some tips in Seven Forums to get rid!
C: is my SSD on which I wish to install Win 8.
I've read advice to disconnect all other drives before the installation - is this best?
 

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#39
Not sure what happened to that screenshot - trying again!

Can't seem to get the screenshot to appear despite attaching it twice.

Anyway if you assume I have only one drive C: (SSD) as all the others will be disconnected prior to installation of Windows 8, there will be just one partition containing Windows 7 and my programs. There is no System Reserved Partition. To put it in a nutshell this is how I would like things to remain after installing Windows 8.
 
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