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Clean Install - Windows 8


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I can do it with a new HD Drive or clean all, but not a used MBR drive with the installer. (with a DVD)

I don't know if it'll work with a DVD. I used the created UEFI USB flash drive instead.

Did you delete all partitions on the disk during setup until is showed as "unallocated space"?
 

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I can do it with a new HD Drive or clean all, but not a used MBR drive with the installer. (with a DVD)

I don't know if it'll work with a DVD. I used the created UEFI USB flash drive instead.

Did you delete all partitions on the disk during setup until is showed as "unallocated space"?
If I delete all partitions, drive is still allocated to MBR.
If I click NEW, I end up one MBR partition.
 

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Are there ISO files of Windows 8 available just like there are for Windows 7?
 

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Thanks, Brink. However, I get an error when I enter the Windows 8 key. w8error.PNG

This is an OEM key from the pre-installed version of Windows 8 from a Sony Vaio laptop.
 

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Ah, you would need to do a system recovery with your Sony Vaio laptop instead to restore Windows 8 back to a factory state.

[video=youtube;r1lJLniY-j8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1lJLniY-j8&feature=youtu.be[/video]

[video=youtube;98GGk_rMCm8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GGk_rMCm8&feature=youtu.be[/video]
 

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That's why I wanted just the ISO file. I don't want all of Sony's crapware again.
 

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It doesn't appear that you can use an OEM product key to activate a retail ISO like you could with Windows 7.

As a workaround, you could do a system recovery (if needed), uninstall all of Sony's bloatware that you don't want, then create a system image to another drive.

This way you could just do a System Image Recovery as needed to have your PC back to like it was when the image was created.
 

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Okay. Thanks, Brink. I'll give that a try. :D

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HI, may I ask, why when I deleted the partition and reformat, it created 4 partitions, called as recovery, msr, system and primary?
 

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You're most welcome. :)
 

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I am having trouble putting "some [installation] pieces" together without having residual uncertainty. The related tutorials are excellent, but, still, I have lingering questions. Thank you for you help in advance.

In the context of steps 6 through 8 of this tutorial, formatting is done automatically when installation begins, right? Also, is proceeding in this way all one needs to do to install 64 bit or 32 bit regardless of what was on the drive prior to creating unallocated space. For example, do you need to restart to, say, an install DVD after creating the unallocated space in order to, for example, install 32 bit Win8 where a 64 bit OS (e.g., Win8 or Win7) previously resided and vice versa "bitness" wise?

And, assume I have a retail 64-bit upgrade DVD and a 64-bit upgrade DVD created using an ISO obtained via the upgrade-assistant approach to getting an ISO (as mentioned above). Is there a difference is what can be accomplished installation-wise with the two discs? And, ignoring activation, is there a difference in the procedures used to get the same result using the two disc?

Continuing from the last paragraph are there activation differences caused by differences in the two discs?

Answering all of what's above is a lot to ask. But, rest assured that I have at least applied myself to reading up on the things I am asking. On many of the things I have ask, I think I know the answers but my lingering uncertainties still don't go away. Thanks again.
 
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In the context of steps 6 through 8, formatting is done automatically when install begins, right? Also, is proceeding in this way all one needs to do to install 64 bit or 32 bit regardless of what was on the drive prior to creating unallocated space. For example, do you need to restart to, say, an install DVD after creating the unallocated space in order to, for example, install 32 bit Win8 where a 64 bit OS (e.g., Win8 or Win7) previously resided and vice versa?

Another clarification please. For example, if I use the upgrade-assistant approach to download an ISO using a 32-bit machine and create an Install DVD, then there is no way I can use the DVD to install 64-bit Win8, right? The "bitness" of a DVD created using the procedure mentioned is inflexibly tied to the "bitness" of the machine used to download the ISO, right?

Finally, assume I have a retail 64-bit upgrade DVD and a 64-bit upgrade DVD created using an ISO obtained via the upgrade-assistant approach to getting an ISO (as mentioned above). Is there a difference is what can be done installation-wise with the two discs?
Step 6 to Step 8, is fine, no need for restarts,


For Secure Erase.

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Thank you very much. I see. And, I was adding more to my questions while you were posting. I'd greatly appreciate any more that you have to say.
 

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Thank you very much. I see. And, I was adding more to my questions while you were posting. I'd greatly appreciate any more that you have to say.
Installing is the same.

Activation is the same.

When buy the DVD, you will receive X32 & x64 DVD's.
 

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Thanks much again. CU on board.
 

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