This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

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While many PC makers saw the coming of Windows 8 as an opportunity for growth and increased competition against Apple, those feelings are slowly fading.
Of course, no need for a crystal ball to predict that: Who wants a desktop/tower PC with a cellphone monitor screen? The non sens at Redmond is stunning.
Robert said:
W8 will not die, it already has a lot of support.
=)) :D ROTFLMAO
Robert said:
It will become mainstream whether you like it or not, when it ships on every single new laptop and desktop.
If they do this you will see millions of poeple asking for a refund, returning the machine to the vendor, calling helpdesk or the computer stores... It will be an unmanageable situation. MS will be sued for delivering ill advertised products and the EU will fine them double digit billions just for the sake of it. The life of Metro on desktop PCs will be counted in weeks. Everybody will be laughing their lungs out. MS will be covered with ridicule.
 

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If you download the RTM, You'll regret it. I was rocking the cool glassy RP, then I downloaded the leak. Now my eyes burn. I also saw too much gray in 2003. Now it's back with a vengeance.

Ha. Well I must say it is cleaner, but aero should be an option. Microsoft was threatening to break its glass, but they should've read these forums. It won't be a flop. It actually looks more promising than 7. They're pushing us away from the desktop, now I'm not sure, but will Microsoft change with the final release?
 

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Why I’m uninstalling Windows 8


As a cruel trick on myself, about a month ago I installed Windows 8 on my main PC to see what it was like.

The answer is: abysmal.

I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say that Windows 8 is the worst computing experience I’ve ever had. As a desktop operating system, it’s annoying, frustrating, irritating, and baffling to use. I’ve tried on many occasions to explain exactly why it’s so awful to use day-to-day, and most of the time, smoke starts pouring out of my ears. I thought it would be better to get down exactly what the issues are and why you should avoid it.

Full article at:
Why I

Love it! :D I had to share that one on a social networking site!

Outgrew Legacy to XP then to Vista and it's sidebar annoyance and onto a real "success story" with 7 and was disappointed MS didn't continue to learn at what makes a desktop OS work for people! :rolleyes:

As I stated before on different occasions once I got into 7 was that what would come next would be a hard sell. Trashing the desktop concept with a mobile gui only further alienates many away from the next version. Some may love the surface changes while others are simply going to hate it! There's no IFs or Wants about it.

I never got the chance to run ME but now regret never having a chance to run 2000 Pro back then. Missed grabbing NT 4.0 for only $5 at a pc show of vendors one time for a look at that one as well. XP suffered a gfeat deal needing a ton of fixes to make it into any kind of working OS without simply being a blue screen special until Vista's delayed launch came along.

The pros for Vista were security, stability, far fewer blue screens!, and smoother OS once SP1 went on. The download side as realized by MS was Windows was simply growing too large in size which brought about 7 and the MinWin kernel for a much better ride on the MS train! 8 on the other hand is the MS train hitting a derailment! "The Great Mobile Experiment" will be a real test if MS can actually pull it off and turn 8 into any kind of real success story while the outlooks are gloom.
 

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Windows 8 is a computing miracle, I really can't see why people are degrading it. It makes Windows 7 look like a BIG step down. Bleh.
 

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Windows 8 is a computing miracle, I really can't see why people are degrading it. It makes Windows 7 look like a BIG step down. Bleh.

People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.
 

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Windows 8 is a computing miracle, I really can't see why people are degrading it. It makes Windows 7 look like a BIG step down. Bleh.

People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.

It's true, Vista was quite the contrary, it was meant to be amazing :wink:
 

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Windows 8 is a computing miracle, I really can't see why people are degrading it. It makes Windows 7 look like a BIG step down. Bleh.

People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.

It's true, Vista was quite the contrary, it was meant to be amazing :wink:

Actually it was really good, but it wasn't really supported on the older hardwares properly.

Windows 7 is a reskin of vista with more hardware support.

But Windows 8 is fast out of the box.
 

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People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.

It's true, Vista was quite the contrary, it was meant to be amazing :wink:

Actually it was really good, but it wasn't really supported on the older hardwares properly.

Windows 7 is a reskin of vista with more hardware support.

But Windows 8 is fast out of the box.

Robert, I like your thinking! WinRT is a great improvement, compatibility is the only issue I have faced, but same with all betas
 

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Actually it was really good, but it wasn't really supported on the older hardwares properly.

Windows 7 is a reskin of vista with more hardware support.

But Windows 8 is fast out of the box.

The launch date for Vista was delayed several times under the LongHorn code name and by then OEMs were too lazy to provide adequate drriver support when it was time to see the previous finished and released. It still lacked from being a version that had grown too large in size with the MS minimum recommended system specs were much lower then actual a mistake by MS which made OEMs however happy to cheapen up their new pcs!

Even with XP going from 1gb upto 2gb of ram saw an immediate performance boost as well as seeing the older version run smoother then before! But MS understated the actual needs of the newer version! 7 on the other hand wasn't simply Vista being reawakened but brought in a new MinWin kernel as well as seeing Fat support return which was removed for Vista.

7 is actually the version that runs out of the box while 8 is now seeing the exact same dilemna Vista was in as far as OEM driver support! And the findings here show that 8 only looks like it is starting up faster while all background processes continue to load behind the new Start screen you see first and then onto the desktop which by the extra click on desktop button is enough of a delay to see the rest finish loading.

(If you assigned a password and face the Lock screen everything is loaded before you reach the Start screen! :roflmao:)
 

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Why I’m uninstalling Windows 8

The comment "If you’re using Metro apps, there is no clock" clearly shows he's not used Windows 8 for a month. Especially considering he's ranted about the Charms bar which when accessed ALWAYS displays the obvious clock. The clock may not be always displayed like the desktop but it is easily accessible in Metro. There are also other false rants in this article.


Wow, what a surprise, Acer complaining again?

"Acer Inc., Quanta Computer Inc. and Compal Electronics Inc., three major PC
makers, have all lost hope in Windows 8 being the savior of PC sales for the
second half of fiscal year 2012."

Major PC makers? Other than Acer I've never heard of the others. A little less whining and a lot more doing because the REAL major PC makers (HP, Dell, IBM etc) are finalizing products.
 

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The clock may not be always displayed like the desktop but it is easily accessible in Metro. There are also other false rants in this article.
Well, I could wear a watch, or look at my cell phone, or look up www.whattimeisit.com....but who wants to do that. Not having a visible clock at all times is a PITA, especially in a business environment where time management and having to be ready for meetings is a requirement.
 

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The clock may not be always displayed like the desktop but it is easily accessible in Metro. There are also other false rants in this article.
Well, I could wear a watch, or look at my cell phone, or look up www.whattimeisit.com....but who wants to do that. Not having a visible clock at all times is a PITA, especially in a business environment where time management and having to be ready for meetings is a requirement.

First of all in a business environment users will be spending very little time with Metro so they'll see their clocks on the desktop. Of course there are those users that like to hide their task bar so the motion to see the clock is basically the same. Also, MANY users use their cell phones to look at the time even though they are wearing a watch. Then some of us stopped wearing a watch years ago and find our time management has improved, yea sounds odd but you'd be surprised.

Regardless, the main point I was making was he said that Metro had NO clock, therefore he's barely used Windows 8 making the whole article one big rant. I don't care if he doesn't like Windows 8 but don't post an article with false information then tell users not to bother with the OS. Perhaps he's just looking for hits to his site and Windows 8 bashing is a hot topic.
 

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First of all in a business environment users will be spending very little time with Metro
You got that right, because Metro isn't included in XP, Vista or 7...or their iPad's < - Sorry, I couldn't help myself.


Then some of us stopped wearing a watch years ago and find our time management has improved, yea sounds odd but you'd be surprised.
I'm unsure if I really ever wore a watch since I got out of college. It's been quite a long time.

Regardless, the main point I was making was he said that Metro had NO clock, therefore he's barely used Windows 8 making the whole article one big rant. I don't care if he doesn't like Windows 8 but don't post an article with false information then tell users not to bother with the OS. Perhaps he's just looking for hits to his site and Windows 8 bashing is a hot topic.
Yeah, seems like lots are ranting about the OS. Right or wrong, good of bad, it's definitely struck a nerve with lots of people.
 

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First of all in a business environment users will be spending very little time with Metro so they'll see their clocks on the desktop. Of course there are those users that like to hide their task bar so the motion to see the clock is basically the same. Also, MANY users use their cell phones to look at the time even though they are wearing a watch. Then some of us stopped wearing a watch years ago and find our time management has improved, yea sounds odd but you'd be surprised.

Regardless, the main point I was making was he said that Metro had NO clock, therefore he's barely used Windows 8 making the whole article one big rant. I don't care if he doesn't like Windows 8 but don't post an article with false information then tell users not to bother with the OS. Perhaps he's just looking for hits to his site and Windows 8 bashing is a hot topic.

When you walk into any business generally you wouldn't expect to find a clock gadget on the office machine's desktop! You can rule that one out. And yes many opt to check the autohide option for the taskbar.

As far as wearing a watch that's a personal not corporate decision people make on their own and not any commercial or privatized requirement. In fact companies award high priced watches to employees who perform well showing that to be in error!

The Metro isn't just the Start screen and neither would you expect to see a clock on the Start orb in any previous version which would be an interesting OS tweak! :D The clock, time, and date have always been an item in the System notification area with the option to hide simply to keep things like time and date stamps on things going. Businesses often have wall clocks around somewhere to start with.
 

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Windows 8 is a computing miracle, I really can't see why people are degrading it. It makes Windows 7 look like a BIG step down. Bleh.

You're kidding, right?

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Robert said:
People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.
Yeah. I'm going to buy W8 because like in all previous releases, there is something that sucks. Excellent logic, Robert. Are you programmer by any chance? :D
 

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Robert said:
People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.
Yeah. I'm going to buy W8 because like in all previous releases, there is something that sucks. Excellent logic, Robert. Are you programmer by any chance? :D

I did not mean it in that way, I said that people say something sucks, when in fact it's actually good. And yes, I am a programmer.
 

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Robert said:
People act like this before any major Windows release. People said Windows 7 would be rubbish as well.
Yeah. I'm going to buy W8 because like in all previous releases, there is something that sucks. Excellent logic, Robert. Are you programmer by any chance? :D

I did not mean it in that way, I said that people say something sucks, when in fact it's actually good. And yes, I am a programmer.

While that is always true. The /meaningful/ content is in how MANY people are saying it sucks. When 50% of your customers say your new product sucks, that's significant.

In comparison, XP, 7 and even the Vista "Whiners" were somewhat minor in number compared to the 8 case.

Windows 8 is good... for tablets and phones (We assume and hope) and barely functional desktop usage (If Metro is all you ever need from a desktop, you don't need a desktop). It is a rather horrific interface for anyone that wants to customise their computer to their own working needs and aesthetic desires and or has serious work to do on it.
 

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Fseal? Your not going to upgrade to Windows 8 are you? You strike me as one of those Windows XP like people that stayed till XP was put to death by Microsoft.
 

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