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Windows 8 Grabs 5.42% of the OS Market

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic98 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    "Grabs" is hardly IMO the correct expression -- might be desperately via brute force and lack of other possible choices grudgingly reaches 5.4% of the market. (For most people using Linux or Apple isn't an option -- and W7 has all but disappeared from normal retail channels).

    "Grabs" essentially implies that the OS is taking retail by storm which even the most biased person can see quite clearly it most definitely isn't.

    Windows 8.1 might fare a little better though provided they do something with that REDICULOUS start button. At least link that button to Power on / Off / restart /Logoff etc if nothing else.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I fail to see what any of this has to do with Apple or Linux. People who don't like 8 can easily stick with Windows 7. A lot of people like the OS they have evidence by the way XP is holding on, Windows 8 is a big change for a lot of people. Big change does not go over well in technology. That being said being at 5.4. "Grabs" might not be the best word, but 5.4 is not that far off from where they were headed at the growth rate 8 has been going at, even with that being slow. Maybe they're at 5.4 becuase more and more people are getting used to Windows 8 every day. Im sure many are liking what they see from 8.1 as well. This whole notion of "Windows 8 is not enough like 7, so I'm switching the Linux or Mac" makes very little sense to me. Despite its flaws, especially with the option of Desktop, Windows 8 is still more like the previous OS than Mac. I don't know anyone would expect that Windows 8 sales would just stop. Everyone does have the mentality that they're not even going to try to get used to Windows 8.
    You make too much sense here


    Anyway if it were up to some, we may have never got XP or Windows 7. Heck going back a bit, we may have never gotten Windows 98. Oh my gawd.... they'll killing off DOS!

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  2. #32


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    Beats me why so few understand. Dos to gui was accepted because people realised it was a change for the better.

    Change is not automatically better.

    Getting a dreadful terminal disease is a change. Most people do not welcome that.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Change is not automatically better.
    No, it isn't, but it still happens, and we must learn to cope.... or else we stress our selves out

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Getting a dreadful terminal disease is a change. Most people do not welcome that.
    As one who battled such a disease, no, it wasn't fun, and I didn't like it.... but I, as well as many others, had to deal with it, like it or not.

    At any rate the issue here and now isn't some "dreadful terminal disease", it's an OS GUI change, not a life ending event!

    I think we're over dramatizing things a bit. It isn't that serious. When the next OS comes along, we'll be hearing the same ole vitriol. Just like we heard when moving from XP to Vista to 7.

    With that, we agree on this... no one likes change
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  4. #34


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    Quote Originally Posted by pulsar68 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    ...

    You all have a choice. You have a choice for a third-party add, another os, etc. ...
    My choice... another OS.
    Bye bye Microsoft



    Don't let the garage door come crashing down on ya on the way out!
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  5. #35


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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Change is not automatically better.
    No, it isn't, but it still happens, and we must learn to cope.... or else we stress our selves out

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Getting a dreadful terminal disease is a change. Most people do not welcome that.
    As one who battled such a disease, no, it wasn't fun, and I didn't like it.... but I, as well as many others, had to deal with it, like it or not.

    At any rate the issue here and now isn't some "dreadful terminal disease", it's an OS GUI change, not a life ending event!

    I think we're over dramatizing things a bit. It isn't that serious. When the next OS comes along, we'll be hearing the same ole vitriol. Just like we heard when moving from XP to Vista to 7.

    With that, we agree on this... no one likes change
    You have totally missed the point of SIW2's post.

    Which is, that whenever anyone criticizes the changes in W8, instead of examining the actual changes objectively to assess whether they are positive or negative, they are accused of simply being unable to adapt to change.

    And that is a red herring to avoid the issue of such objective examination of the changes.

    Putting all that aside, W8 has been summarily rejected by consumers. And that's the final verdict on the efficacy of the changes ... and the reason for the negative responses in this forum, in the hope that M$ will listen to it's critics, and not just pay lip service by claiming they do.
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  6. #36


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    One of the reasons put forward for the failure of W8 by it's proponents is that the desktop computer market has reached saturation.

    That is also a red herring and denial of reality. The actual number of new machines may have slowed to the level of simply maintaining the status quo, with relatively small new machines being sold, but updating software to the latest version of Windows is a totally different matter.


    If W8 is the wonder OS it is touted as being by fanbois, consumers would be flocking to the vendors to buy it. And it would be the logical upgrade for businesses facing the imminent demise of XP.

    And while XP is not in use by many enthusiasts, it is still in use by many businesses, who won't change until it's unsupported. In the past few months, I have personally seen it in use in large banks and finance organization, doctors' surgeries, insurance companies ... and the list goes on.
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  7. #37


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    Hi there
    Actually the desktop market is undergoing a SMALL revival -- it will never go back to the old Halcyon days where the PC was the ONLY device you had for email, Internet etc but more and more people at HOME and at WORK are buying into the use of both MULTIPLE and LARGE monitors - this type of platform definitely needs a proper PC with a proper OS -- not a stupid TOUCH mobile type OS.

    Even at work these days I have THREE monitors at my desk -- and most colleagues I know in other jobs with a variety of different clients certainly have at least TWO and I'm not even in I.T support or services -- although I do a certain amount of testing what developers have produced and also some QC before roll out.

    I think you'll find that the majority of largish workplaces these days where users only have ONE monitor is becoming a rarity.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #38


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    @ Jimbo. I only use computers for personal use, which includes hobby ... as well as business use; and am not involved in any way with servers, development or IT work.

    However, I have for quite a long time been the "friendly neighbourhood PC geek" ... neighbourhood meaning personal friends, residents of the complex I live in, acquaintances and memebers of a world wide self help organization.

    As such I do get to see and repair, upgrade and reinstall windows for quite a large and diverse number of persons. And from time to time buy the parts and build new rigs for individuals. It is my experience that most private users have both desktop and one or more mobile devices, with smartfones in the van ... with the latter sometimes being used as hot spot modems. Many will also have a laptop or tablet.

    I am constantly amazed at how many persons are still using XP. And don't even know anything about the "bad hair day dramas" in the progression from Vista to Win8. I think one of the reasons they don't leave XP is because it does the simple basic things they need to do, like paying bills online; emails; and social networking. And what the desktop may lack because of mobility restrictions is made up for in a simple hand held device ... with iPhone/Pad in the van ... for better or worse.
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    That is also a red herring and denial of reality. The actual number of new machines may have slowed to the level of simply maintaining the status quo, with relatively small new machines being sold, but updating software to the latest version of Windows is a totally different matter.


    If W8 is the wonder OS it is touted as being by fanbois, consumers would be flocking to the vendors to buy it. And it would be the logical upgrade for businesses facing the imminent demise of XP.
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    And while XP is not in use by many enthusiasts, it is still in use by many businesses, who won't change until it's unsupported. In the past few months, I have personally seen it in use in large banks and finance organization, doctors' surgeries, insurance companies ... and the list goes on.
    I use an XP VM for my old games.

    I have XP installed so that I can use the tagging feature in Windows Live Photo Gallery.

    It "runs amok" in W7, because of the Libraries (just like WMP12).
    Presumably the same thing would happen in W8 (I didn't install it in any of the W8 previews).
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    You have totally missed the point of SIW2's post.
    I could easily say the same about you, but I won't get into a tit for tat argument. We're done.

    That said, just because I choose not follow the masses doesn't mean I don't get it. It just means I tend to look at things a bit more differently. Everyone has an opinion, and I have mine.

    I've been around these forums for a long time - vista, seven, and now eight. Most of the people here know me; and even though we may disagree, I've never made it personal, nor tried disrespecting anyone. As I like to say... we can agree to disagree agreeably and move on.

    And for the record, I'm quite aware 8 has some short comings, and agree with some of the stuff said... but not all.

    Have a good day.

    Peace
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