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Windows 8.1 - Update to from Windows 8


Autobahn

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#41
I'm thinking of upgrading from Windows 8 to 8.1

I've put it off because I heard about problems that some users have had.

I also use 'classicshell' which I want to continue to use (and which needs updating aswell) and I'm just wondering if 'Classicshell' will work once I've updated, and then I will update 'Classicshell' once I have 8.1 installed.

So if I download 8.1 from the Windows app store I will have the latest, because I've been reading about users of 8.1 having to update to be able to get future updates, and if they don't install a certain update they will not be able to get any more (is this correct?): If I install Windows 8.1 does this mean that I will have all updates needed and there is nothing else to worry about?

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#42
Hello Autobahn, and welcome to Eight Forums.

When you update from Window 8 via the Store, you'll actually upgrade to Windows 8.1 Update now.

There may be a few more updates afterwards, so it wouldn't hurt to check for and install any Windows Updates now and after updating.

If you have any 3rd party AV or firewall programs installed, then it would be recommended to disable or uninstall them until the update has finished to prevent them from interfering with the upgrade.

It would also be recommended to back up anything that you do not want to lose to be safe. For example, if you get a power outage in the middle of an upgrade.

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 

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Autobahn

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#43
I did a 'sfc scan' and the results I got was: Corrupt files were found but were unable to fix some of them.

Reading the CBS log file it mentions a lot packages it failed to open, packages 1-52.

Below is package 1 that failed to open:

Failed to open package file: \\?\C:\Windows\Servicing\Packages\Package_1_for_KB2737084~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.1.0.mum [HRESULT = 0x80070002 - ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND]
2014-04-03 20:16:26, Info CBS Package not in store, assuming not applicable: Package_1_for_KB2737084~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.1.0.

It might have something to do with some of the pre installed apps, which I uninstalled a while back?

I am wondering if this will cause any problem when I update to 8.1 update 1?

Does anyone know what these packages are that failed to open and why are they not opening?

Thanks
 

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#44

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Autobahn

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#45
Hello Autobahn,

KB2737084 appears to about a security update for the .NET Framework 4.5.
Since Windows 8.1 Update is done through Windows Update, you shouldn't have any issues as long as you are able to install Windows Updates. :)
Does that mean that I don't have this security update?
There are 52 packages that have this error!
 

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Autobahn

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#47
It sounds like you may have cleaned up the component store. If so, then the only issue you'll have is not being able to uninstall them.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/44351-winsxs-folder-component-store-clean-up-windows-8-1-a.html
Yes, I used the Windows Disc cleanup and while it was cleaning Windows updates it froze.
That could be where the problem occurred.

One other question (and thanks for answering so many of them) :
Before updating do I have to update all drivers?
Once updated to 8.1 update 1 and I have any problems could I not update the drivers then?
Thanks
 

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No problem. The drivers from Windows 8.1 would be fine in Windows 8.1 Update as well. :)
 

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#49
No problem. The drivers from Windows 8.1 would be fine in Windows 8.1 Update as well. :)
What I meant, was that I have drivers only for Windows 8 at the moment.
 

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While they should still work, it would be best to check to see if any newer versions are available specific for 8.1.
 

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I did a 'sfc scan' and the results I got was: Corrupt files were found but were unable to fix some of them.

Reading the CBS log file it mentions a lot packages it failed to open, packages 1-52.

Below is package 1 that failed to open:

Failed to open package file: \\?\C:\Windows\Servicing\Packages\Package_1_for_KB2737084~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.1.0.mum [HRESULT = 0x80070002 - ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND]
2014-04-03 20:16:26, Info CBS Package not in store, assuming not applicable: Package_1_for_KB2737084~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.2.1.0.

It might have something to do with some of the pre installed apps, which I uninstalled a while back?

I am wondering if this will cause any problem when I update to 8.1 update 1?

Does anyone know what these packages are that failed to open and why are they not opening?

Thanks
try Dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/26512-dism-fixing-component-store-corruption-windows-8-a.html
 
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#52
@Mansome: That did the trick.

I have now installed 8.1 update 1 and it went smoothly.

The only problem I am getting is from 'Cuetools' which Avast is now saying has a virus and I can't open.

I am sure it is a false positive.
 

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Hey, i just tried to update my Windows to 8.1 from Windows 8 trough the store but when i got to the restart stage my screen went black instead of the Windows logo and the %. Any thoughts on what could be the problem?
 

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    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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    Thermaltake Core P3
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    Corsair Hydro H115i
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Thanks, gonna try that know:)
 

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#56
Um, i could have a little problem right know. I just tried to restart my PC. And it's gets to the same stage as erlier just a black screen am nothing happens?
is there some way to launch safe mode on launch?
 

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#57
Let it sit for a while to see if it may continue.
 

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    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
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    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB8200 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone

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#58
Okey
 

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Haha sometimes you Only need to wait:D IT worked and the install from the store is complete
 

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Great news. :party:
 

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    Intel i7-8700K OC'd to 5 GHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
    Memory
    16 GB (8GBx2) G.SKILL TridentZ DDR4 3200 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27" Asus VE278Q
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung 960 EVO M.2,
    256GB OCZ Vector,
    6TB WD Black WD6001FZWX
    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
    PSU
    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
    Case
    Thermaltake Core P3
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro H115i
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless K800
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master
    Internet Speed
    1 Gb/s Download and 35 Mb/s Upload
    Browser
    Internet Explorer 11
    Antivirus
    Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Premium
    Other Info
    Logitech Z625 speaker system,
    Logitech BRIO 4K Pro webcam,
    HP Color LaserJet Pro MFP M477fdn,
    Linksys EA9500 router,
    Arris SB8200 cable modem,
    APC SMART-UPS RT 1000 XL - SURT1000XLI,
    Lumia 1520 phone

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