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Start Menu - Restore in Windows 8


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#41
regretfully, I am finding threads on the subject of a start menu, are becoming distinctively boring. I customised the modern to my liking, and am getting more used to it. But to avoid the problem of continual switching between desktops, I do have installed, "Startisback"
StartIsBack - real start menu in Windows 8

The beauty of this one is it is precisely the same as the Windows 7 start menu, bypasses the Modern screen (as a customised option) with a huge amount of customising options. If I understand post #6 correctly, there are some extra requiements needed for "ex7forW8",. None for Startisback, other than doityourself customising.
 

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#42
regretfully, I am finding threads on the subject of a start menu, are becoming distinctively boring. I customised the modern to my liking, and am getting more used to it. But to avoid the problem of continual switching between desktops, I do have installed, "Startisback"
StartIsBack - real start menu in Windows 8

The beauty of this one is it is precisely the same as the Windows 7 start menu, bypasses the Modern screen (as a customised option) with a huge amount of customising options. If I understand post #6 correctly, there are some extra requiements needed for "ex7forW8",. None for Startisback, other than doityourself customising.
Start is back created by same person as ex7forW8
it offers same functionality as ex7forW8 (start menu that can do same things as windows 7 start menu and more with updates)
start is back isn't free but cheaper than for example start 8 by stardock 2PCs version is 3USD. (start8 is 4.99USD)
start is back different from ex7forW8 because it does not disable metro ui only hides it you can boot directly to desktop disable all or some hot corners.. transform start screen to apps screen with only modern ui apps in it.
 

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#44
MS has removed their own start menu code.

Start menu replacements in future will need to be self sufficient.

The one you linked will not work.
 

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#46
Ask Tihiy, he wrote it.

He might be making a completely different paid start menu.
 

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#47
THis is also replica Win7 Start menu which toggles off Metro, also free. Is it the same? Windows 7 Start Menu for Windows 8

Have read that MS is removing the code needed to have any type of Start Menu. True?
That's the same as the one Mustang posted about on the first page. (and the solution I prefer to use the best)

MS may remove the code that makes this possible in future versions of windows but it will always work on normal versions of Windows 8. I can't see them using an update that will disable this already used popular feature. Too many people use this and other start menu variants. That would be the worst thing MS can do. They would majorly screw themselves if they did that and force thousands of people the nightmare of backing up their data and going back to Windows 7. All for what.. just to force people to use the Metro UI when the operating system is not functionally dependent on it in the first place - that's silly. It's simply a front end GUI.

Heck, MS is Lucky that someone hasn't made an app that completely overwrites the entire windows managment system and replaces it with something totally Non Windows like - such as the windows managers you have with other popular operating systems, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, Gnone, etc. These windows managers offer different styles and features that enhance a user experience for speed and performance in the systems that use them. Microsoft should learn from this and offer the user more choices over the windows management system so customers can streamline their experience to suit their needs. It's sad MS is stuck in the dark ages.
 

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#48
What about waiting until Windows 8.1 is out and you wont need to worry about the start button
 

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#49
Except by all accounts that button is going to be hidden unless hovered over and doesn't bring back the old style Start Menu. I'll stick with Stardock's Start8, thanks.
 

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#50
Tutorial updated with OPTION FOUR for Start Menu Reviver. :)
 

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#51
Shawn have just upgraded my Sandy Bridge but and installed Classic Shell but have no start orb anywhere on the taskbar.

It saved all my settings except this one small problem any remedies please??
 

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#52
Hello John,

Run the "C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\Start Menu Settings" shortcut below to open the settings for Classic Start Menu.

Next, click on the Start Button tab, see if Enable Start Button (Windows 8) or Replace Start Button (Windows 8.1) is checked, and click on OK.

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 

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#53
Ok mate will give that a go if worse comes to the worst then I will get the Stardock8 like the laptop.:)
 

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#54
Ok Shawn all done though I can only get the XP Start or the shell for the start button but although would have liked to orb it is something eh.

The really good news is the 8 has knocked 14 secs off the boot time now 25 secs compared to 40 secs in 7 the shut down is almost instaneous so just a tad slower on boot v the laptop. Going from app tp app is very quick too:)
 

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No worries John. In the same Start Button tab, you can select (dot) to use a Custom Button, then select the PNG image you want for it.
 
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#56
Thanks Shawn you are a life saver as always:D
 

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You're most welcome mate. :)
 

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#58
Hmm Shawn got a bit lost in there mate I might just leave it as is and maybe get the Stardock :confused:
 

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Here's a screenshot to help. After you select (dot) Custom Button under "Button Look", you would click on Button Image and it's browse button at the end. From there you would select a .bmp or .png image you want for the Start button.

You will have to play with trying different images and sizes of the image until you find one that works best though. I would recommend a 32x32 pixel image.

button.jpg
 

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#60
Yes mate tried a dozen times now and the orb images are all ridiculous skulls and psychedelic nonsense from that link - I have tried downloading the orb images but some work some don't download .

Bit disappointing but well if I have to stick with the scallop shell I'll have to:huh:
 

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