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Start Menu - Restore in Windows 8


Brink

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#61
Yeah, you'll need to a 32x32 PNG for it to look right.

However, the program Start8 does work best.
 

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#62
Ok Shawn I might just go with the Stardock8 it is only $5 anyway thanks for the trouble though:)
 

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MrShowdown

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#63
Installed Start8 + Aero Glass for Windows 8 and with some settings it looks like this:
Screenshot (3).png
Soo beautiful :cool:
Just trying to find out the way to enable the blur on the Start8 Start Menu.
Link to Aero Glass for W8
 

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Ex_Brit

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#64
I tried various earlier versions of the AeroGlass tool and decided to wait for the final version as some minor issues were apparent. With 8.1 coming the tool will need even further refinements no doubt.

Never did manage to get AeroBlur to work properly.

This was yet another example of Microsoft acting high-handedly and deciding to do away with those effects in the interests of battery preservation. They forget that the vast majority of systems are plugged in and don't need to worry too much about power drain so, as they should have done with the Start button and menu, made it an option.

That's why I like Vista so much, it has everything.

BTW along with the AeroGlass tool you linked there is this which allows further adjustments including blur: Aero Glass Tweaker
 
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MrShowdown

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#65
I tried various earlier versions of the AeroGlass tool and decided to wait for the final version as some minor issues were apparent. With 8.1 coming the tool will need even further refinements no doubt.

Never did manage to get AeroBlur to work properly.

This was yet another example of Microsoft acting high-handedly and deciding to do away with those effects in the interests of battery preservation. They forget that the vast majority of systems are plugged in and don't need to worry too much about power drain so, as they should have done with the Start button and menu, made it an option.

That's why I like Vista so much, it has everything.

BTW along with the AeroGlass tool you linked there is this which allows further adjustments including blur: Aero Glass Tweaker
Yeah, that's one of the few things i hate about Windows 8.
AeroGlass tool doesn't work Windows 8.1 due to changes of DWM to use Direct3D 11 instead of Direct3D 10.1.
And yeah, Vista is one of the most best looking Windows version ever made. I used Vista theme on my Windows 7 installs.

EDIT: Ex_Brit, you might want to look at this: Aero Glass for Win8 RC4 by ~wango911 on deviantART
 

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Ex_Brit

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#66
Interesting, thanks ;-)
 

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#67

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dracul

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#68
Talk about ask a question.
I knew from my reading that windows 8 and 8.1 were not at the top of some people’s favorite list.
But from my question I had no idea I would get a half of a nights reading. I thank you all for the
and points of thought about which fix works best and is the most easily installed.
In the last few posts 8.1 which I have, would seem to be somewhat more difficult to return the old start to?

Am I reading this correctly?

Thanks;
Jake




















 

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#69
Hello Jake,

No worries. You could just as easily install a program to restore the Start Menu in Windows 8.1 as well using one of the options in the tutorial.

Another great option is Start8 by Stardock in OPTION FIVE. While it's not free, it is only $4.99 if one of the free programs in the tutorial do not meet your needs.

Hope this helps, :)
Shawn
 

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dracul

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#70
Shawn;
Again thanks for the info, when I asked the question I hadno idea what I would get back. The replies are hi in the forties, wonderfulhelp, but T M I for an old brain that took two years to get to handle XP.
I will take a look at Start 8 after I hit send here.
Jake
 

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Brink

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Shawn;
Again thanks for the info, when I asked the question I hadno idea what I would get back. The replies are hi in the forties, wonderfulhelp, but T M I for an old brain that took two years to get to handle XP.
I will take a look at Start 8 after I hit send here.
Jake
You're most welcome Jake. I hope it'll meet your needs. :)
 

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dracul

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#72
Shawn;
I looked over a lot of the list of Starts, got into ClassicShell 4.0 for 8.1. It took just a little reading, but I got itand now have a start menu almost like XP. This I understand much easier thanthat collection of tiles. This I think I can work with and to put a cherry ontop; I opened the wife’s side, hit the button and up came the new start menu.
Thank you for the help, also everyone that joined in;Thanks.
Computers are far from my strong part, but if you or anyoneon the list need help with firearms just ask on the privet EM.
Jake

 

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Brink

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#73
That's great news Jake. I'm glad that one will work for you.
 

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#75
Comparison of Windows 8/.1/.1.1 Start Menus

This is the first time I've actually seen a by-features comparison chart that is pretty much completely objective. No one is trying to sell anything here, and I think the information is very valuable as we wait on Microsoft to bring back a Start Menu for Windows 8--something the company has already stated recently that it is definitely going to do (but which for some mysterious reason is taking them an aeon to get get done!)

Take a look at these Windows 8 Start Menus and say what you will. Anyone who has read a couple of my posts already knows where I stand on this...;) Enjoy!
 

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Edwin

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#76
Kudos to whoever compiled that chart! :)
 

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MilesAhead

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#78
I'm looking for a freebie along the lines of Handy Start Menu. I want something that will automantically categorize the applications it knows. But it also has to make it easy to create new categories and add shortcuts via drag and drop.

I added a category with Handy Start Menu. I could not get it to accept a shortcut. So I get an empty entry in the Start Menu. Really strange. I know there was an auto categorizing start menu that worked in Vista but I forget the name of it. At any rate I'm looking for a Handy Start Menu alternative that's intuitive. :)


Edit: I tried Start Menu X but it gives some error about 64 bit DLL registration failure. It starts up. But I wonder what the DLL does that won't work now. I'll install again to get the error msg.

Edit2: the DLL is shellext-proxy-64.dll

Edit3: I guess this is supposed to allow skipping the Start Page on boot. Oh well. Guess I'll try it anyway. Even install as admin didn't allow it to register. Maybe it doesn't expect recalcitrant users like me who are still running 8.0. :)
 
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jhexp67

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#79
I have used Classic Shell and Start8 [Stardock]
Classic Shell is free and Start8 is $5 [after a 30 day free trial]
Both are excellent programs.
I can't choose which is better. Start8 has a more modern user interface [UI]
 

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Brink

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#80
I have used Classic Shell and Start8 [Stardock]
Classic Shell is free and Start8 is $5 [after a 30 day free trial]
Both are excellent programs.
I can't choose which is better. Start8 has a more modern user interface [UI]
Hello Paul, and welcome to Eight Forums.

Both are excellent choices, but it depends on what you like best that counts. I'd say give them both a play for a while to see if one stands out better to you. :)
 

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    Lumia 1520 phone