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jimbo45

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Linux Mint (17) QIANA now released

I Am trying this in a VM now before testing on a REAL machine. I'm looking for good things with this release --it's a LTS (Long Term support) release which will be supported until 2019.

This is the sort of things I've been looking for -- I tend to use Linux as an everyday desktop and like the idea of Long term release support -- one of the main reasons I chose OPENSUSE over a lot of other ones - but I do prefer a debian based system over an RPM based one like SUSE even though I haven't had too many complaints with it.

(I recommend you use the LEGAL torrent in their links - it's a lot faster than some of the servers until the mirrors get loaded up with the new release).

The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17 ?Qiana? Cinnamon RC released!

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Hi there

Linux Mint (17) QIANA now released

I Am trying this in a VM now before testing on a REAL machine. I'm looking for good things with this release --it's a LTS (Long Term support) release which will be supported until 2019.

This is the sort of things I've been looking for -- I tend to use Linux as an everyday desktop and like the idea of Long term release support -- one of the main reasons I chose OPENSUSE over a lot of other ones - but I do prefer a debian based system over an RPM based one like SUSE even though I haven't had too many complaints with it.

(I recommend you use the LEGAL torrent in their links - it's a lot faster than some of the servers until the mirrors get loaded up with the new release).

The Linux Mint Blog » Blog Archive » Linux Mint 17 ?Qiana? Cinnamon RC released!

Cheers
jimbo
Yup... great news...Just to emphasise - Qiana is RC at the moment...
 

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Hi there

Thanks -- the RC is usually pretty good but that's why I'm running it on a VM -- note there's no LIVECD yet -- that will appear later. So far so good although I believe there are a few minor issues with NVidia (aren't there always !!) but on INTEL HD graphics seems fine. Some people have reported sound issues -- of course I can't test that until I fire it up on a physical machine. On a VM working perfectly.

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Good to hear... Most issues seem related to older hardware really...drivers are always a PITA with RC!

I'm also running it on Intel - no problems at all .... gonna give it whirl later on some of my buds rigs and see how it holds up on different H/W.

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Interesting !

Although I can't use Linux as a production environment, I like to play with some distros.

:)
 

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Just installed Mint 17 virtual machine using VMWare Player. How cool, something else to play with. :)
 

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Just installed Mint 17 virtual machine using VMWare Player. How cool, something else to play with. :)

Hi there
An interesting way to use this is also to create a PORTABLE WINDOWS system - create the LM17 system on an external HDD --it will have to be a non UEFI version as you need to write the Bootloader (GRUB2) to the external HDD and not your main HDD in the computer. Then install vmwware player - free -- and add a Windows Virtual machine. On even a USB2 HDD performance is fine. !!

I did this since Windows to GO is only available for Enterprise users but I felt a portable Windows system is a great recovery tool or even for running alternative versions of programs without modifying your internal HDD or running OS.

The whole thing boots AND RUNS from an external HDD - even if there's no HDD in the computer or its broken. The internal HDD isn't touched in any way if you want to try it out. (Of course you can READ / WRITE to it but that is just doing normal applications).

I did it with an OPENSUSE distro in the post linked to - but Linux Mint works as well. Don't forget though in the Windows VM to enable 3D and hardware acceleration.

Enjoy !!

http://www.eightforums.com/installa...make-portable-windows-system-any-version.html

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Thanks Jimbo! Something else to experiment with. This sounds like a real handy thing to have available.
 

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I'm interested in trying out Linux on a VM using VMWare Player.

Can any of you experts recommend a version that is good for someone without a lot of techie knowledge please.
 

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I'm interested in trying out Linux on a VM using VMWare Player. Can any of you experts recommend a version that is good for someone without a lot of techie knowledge please.
Well, personally, I think Rebecca is kinda sexy ... but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) - MATE or KDE may be more appropiate to begin with... (NB: Linux is not for the GUI orientated... it's more about efficiency (although the wallpapers beat the pants off Windows 10 TP ...IMHO) Editions for Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" - Linux Mint
 

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I'm interested in trying out Linux on a VM using VMWare Player. Can any of you experts recommend a version that is good for someone without a lot of techie knowledge please.
Well, personally, I think Rebecca is kinda sexy ... but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) - MATE or KDE may be more appropiate to begin with... (NB: Linux is not for the GUI orientated... it's more about efficiency (although the wallpapers beat the pants off Windows 10 TP ...IMHO) Editions for Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" - Linux Mint
Thank you. I will take a look at this.
 

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Linux is not for the GUI orientated... it's more about efficiency
I like Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon flavor on a Notebook and a Desktop, works really well on computers that had WinXP, keeps them in use. The GUI is different but still good, as with any change of OS there's a learning process. I have a Dell Inspiron 700m that won't run late versions of Windows, a problem with PAE/Physical Address Extensions on some of the Centrino implementations of the Intel CPU so I put Linux Mint 13 on it making use of a computer instead of throwing it out.
 

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Thanks for the suggestion @Berton. I will add it to the list to look at.

It's very sonfusing to have so many different versions out there :confused:.
 

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Yes, it is confusing but sorting through helps keep me out of the bars, so far hasn't driven me to drink. There will be more changes coming as more of the various developers move/update to Linux Kernel 4 if they haven't already. From a couple of weeks ago:
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I'm also running 17.1 Mint Cinnamon on VMware Player. Pretty nice IMO.
 

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Hi there

As a SERVER most flavours of Linux beat any version of Windows hands down IMO -- even run as a Virtual Machine a Server is perfectly possible. Whether or not it works for you as a desktop is a moot point. Windows still is for 90% of the Non Apple users out there the EASIEST to use as a HOME OS -- if it weren't the case then Windows would have been replaced a long long time ago.

Running Linux on a VM is a great way to learn Linux -- just remember though things are handled differently from Windows so slavishly trying to use Windows principles on a Linux machine will rapidly cause a great deal of frustration and certainly hinder your Linux experience.

A great way to start USING Linux is to have it as a File, Print and Multi-media server -- things like PLEX work on it very easily. As a VM you can try various versions to see what you like.

With VM's though you will need GOOD FAST HDD's or performance will not be good especially if you are Video streaming. SSD's are great but usually not enough capacity. A USB3 HDD can often be a good choice. You must have adequate RAM as well but that's not normally a problem on modern machines - even laptops.

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I'm interested in trying out Linux on a VM using VMWare Player. Can any of you experts recommend a version that is good for someone without a lot of techie knowledge please.
Well, personally, I think Rebecca is kinda sexy ... but then beauty is in the eye of the beholder :) - MATE or KDE may be more appropiate to begin with... (NB: Linux is not for the GUI orientated... it's more about efficiency (although the wallpapers beat the pants off Windows 10 TP ...IMHO) Editions for Linux Mint 17.1 "Rebecca" - Linux Mint
Following your recommendation, Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca, Cinnamon 64 bit has been chosen.

Trying to install this on VMware player using the .iso on a usb during creation of a new VM, I get this message:

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Clicking on Next then choose Linux and need to choose a Version.

What should I choose in this box please?

os#2.PNG
 

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I've not had occasion to come across the same screens you show on the several versions of Linux I've installed.

For first-time users of Linux I recommend what I did, use the .iso file you downloaded with your DVD burning program to create the bootable DVD and boot to it. Run Linux from the DVD to determine if you can use it, saves headaches with setting up a virtual machine and avoids problems with the installed Operating System until after becoming somewhat familiar with Linux. If you like it you can install while booted to the DVD, has an icon on the desktop for doing that.
 

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I've not had occasion to come across the same screens you show on the several versions of Linux I've installed.

For first-time users of Linux I recommend what I did, use the .iso file you downloaded with your DVD burning program to create the bootable DVD and boot to it. Run Linux from the DVD to determine if you can use it, saves headaches with setting up a virtual machine and avoids problems with the installed Operating System until after becoming somewhat familiar with Linux. If you like it you can install while booted to the DVD, has an icon on the desktop for doing that.
I understand what you're saying, and will look at this, but are you also saying that I can't use the .iso on my usb and install the OS whilst creating a VM?
 

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Generally an .iso file is an exact image of the original disc and used to create a duplicate without needing the original disc. I've no use any program that can extract the necessary files for installing directly from an .iso file but there are some that can create a bootable USB drive from the .iso file, again haven't tried one yet. If I was doing it I'd use my CD/DVD Burning program to create the disc from that .iso file then boot to it.
 

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