I'm going to challenge all you Win8 haters...

[Coke Robot]

Really right now, I would have a little more hygiene to have that many screens of such. Even then, 30-40 screens of such would be able to view about 120-160 files, programs, apps, whatever. Trying fitting that in your 3X6 inch start menu...better yet, try finding all of that.

That's what I thought ... limited to Tiddly Winks and Local News!

Serious users actually have many programs, and how hard is it to find a letter in alphabetical order as opposed to ten bazillion tiles! But then it presupposes you're au fait with spelling and using an alphabetical index! Icons went out with the Incas. I bought a PC to get the maximum use out of it. Not to use it as an ornamental display cabinet of pretty pictures. But what the hell, it doesn't really matter what I say or think. Time will tell.

Don't forget to bookmark my earlier post offering whatever odds you want on the outcome, so we can refer back to it after Jan 2013.

Oh! And who the heck uses gadgets! I use my PC to work on. And all my apps are third party bar IE9, WLMail and WinMediaPlayer, which often won't play stuff and I have to use VideoLan VLC MP. My ISP has more stuff on it's home page than all the MS stuff put together.

I think it's funny when some "power" users always go to Excel data inputting with Windows 8 and somehow it's an impediment. Umm....I do that at least weekly, I open up Excel, if it's a new month, I generally will compare multiple spreadsheets and I easily access all that with the Start Screen.

Not only that, I do quite a bit of dragging and dropping, (more like cut and paste) of files everyday, and even more every month. I use the Start Screen for that and the Ribbon.

I usually will have a few programs open at any given time, and I can go to ANY of those programs with the Start Screen real easy. Even if I have metro apps open, I can click on that app and drag it down. Real easy.

If you're doing all of that through the Metro Start screen, IMHO you're either a masochist who enjoys doing things the hard way, or you're living in fantasy land ... no offence intended ... just caling it as I see it!

My tiddly winks and local news aren't just what I have, I have a lot of tiddly winks and programs (once it even got 100 gigs of tiddly winks and programs) that I have and sometimes use. I just happen to be able to find said tiddly winks faster and easier...

I've already added it to my Calendar for January 31st, not only will I be notified a day in advance from my Calendar app, but through Outlook and Hotmail and my Windows Phone. I would like to wager a digital 10 cent bet about how Windows 8 will do, if you're up to that.

Who uses gadgets? Wow, I remember this debate a LONG time ago with the Developer Preview. From what I gathered from that, EVERY SERIOUS POWER USER DOES! I know, shocking. I think I know of those home pages that have everything on them, they're so cluttered and I think it's somewhat superfluous. But oh well....

 

[poppa bear]

I've already added it to my Calendar for January 31st

That proves you're a masochist! You enjoy defeat!
How hot would you like the oven for the humble pie you'll have to eat come January!

I imagine in your personal folders filled with 2 or 3 thousand files, you have 'icon' view ticked and not 'list' view, because it can be very difficult for example to find a program like Revo Uninstaller under the letter 'R' by tapping 'R' on your keyboard.

Anyway, they say if you argue with a fool, in the end you become a fool! So why am I still responding! Guess I've become the fool!

 

[Coke Robot]

I've already added it to my Calendar for January 31st

That proves you're a masochist! You enjoy defeat!
How hot would you like the oven for the humble pie you'll have to eat come January!

I imagine in your personal folders filled with 2 or 3 thousand files, you have 'icon' view ticked and not 'list' view, because it can be very difficult for example to find a program like Revo Uninstaller under the letter 'R' by tapping 'R' on your keyboard.

Anyway, they say if you argue with a fool, in the end you become a fool! So why am I still responding! Guess I've become the fool!

I only choose to be serious when I debate. Oh well....

Speaking of such, I do use icon view because it shows more folders than details view in the given screen estate. And I do actually use that keyboard shortcut.........

And this is true, I must have become a fool myself....

 

[poppa bear]

Error

 

[poppa bear]

I do use icon view because it shows more folders than details view in the given screen estate. And I do actually use that keyboard shortcut.........

You're embarassing yourself. Who said anything about details view? I quoted list view, and I'll add that all details in column are unticked. And that gives you the maximum number of files per page.

Did you forget your reading glasses or do you have trouble with words as well as the alphabet? OMG I hope you have an icon dictionary at home and not a hard copy text one?

And this is true, I must have become a fool myself....

Sorry old son, no second prize. If you're going to tee off on someone else's material make it witty or at least original.

 

[Coke Robot]

I do use icon view because it shows more folders than details view in the given screen estate. And I do actually use that keyboard shortcut.........

You're embarassing yourself. Who said anything about details view? I quoted list view, and I'll add that all details in column are unticked. And that gives you the maximum number of files per page.

Did you forget your reading glasses or do you have trouble with words as well as the alphabet? OMG I hope you have an icon dictionary at home and not a hard copy text one?

And this is true, I must have become a fool myself....

Sorry old son, no second prize. If you're going to tee off on someone else's material make it witty or at least original.

Wow.......

I'm going to step away right now because I have better things to do than to discuss simpleton things like a silly little twerp...........

 

[poppa bear]

Wow.......

I'm going to step away right now because I have better things to do than to discuss simpleton things like a silly little twerp ...........

Well you said it about yourself not me!

Awww shucks, just when we were starting to have fun!

Lets face it Coke Bottle, you can't step away or you won't be a true Win8 supporter. Anyway, I'm re-naming you Microsoft Robot, because they say jump and you say: "How high?" Just messin with ya!

 

[poppa bear]

Delusions

Delusion is defined in psychiatric terms as: “A belief held in the face of evidence to the contrary, that is resistant to all reason.”

It is noticeable that groups and institutions which fanatically demand the right of free speech to propagate their beliefs, deny that very right to anyone who dares to disagree with them on any given issue. And vehemently and savagely attack and abuse those who do so.

This thread invited people to disagree with the author’s pro Win8 point of view by challenging those who hated Windows 8. Yet, every single argument put up against Win8 is vehemently debunked, and no ground is conceded. However, since experience shows that no system is perfect, defence of assumed perfection of any system is delusional.

And that, IMHO, exactly summarizes the attitude of many fanatical Win8 supporters who deem that any new system put out by Microsoft is: "A priori better than any previous system; and is what’s best for everyone." And god help anyone who dares to disagree. It also pretty much reflects the attitude of Microsoft in regard to Win8.

And that is totally different to someone simply expressing a personal preference as distinct from demanding everyone agree they're right.

I'm sure Win8 supporters would apply that same rationale to Win8 opponents. However, the point is, in this thread, they're the ones who invited the public at large to prove them wrong. Yet it seems that they are already committed in their own minds to what they see as an unassailable point of view, and will tolerate nothing to the contrary.

The consumer market will be the ones who pass judgment on their beliefs come January 2013.

And that's my last word on the subject ... I hope!

 

[alphanumeric]

OCw8D ?

 

[Pauly]

Agreed !

 

[HippsieGypsie]

Well stated! I predict that it will do well in the touch public sector and not the business sector, unless M$ adds the choice of UI.

 

[SIW2]

MS are putting on a confident front - in spite of the reception .

They have something up their sleeves.

It might be they don't care about anything except getting some sort of toehold in the tablet market.

It might be they have worked with oem's - incentives/guarantess/subsidies /who knows -to get some attractive devices out there

They might also be throwing a vast amount at the marketing.

If they get over 10% of the tablet market - perhaps that is what they are aiming for.

There is some sense in that.

 

[poppa bear]

MS are putting on a confident front - in spite of the reception .

They have something up their sleeves.

It might be they don't care about anything except getting some sort of toehold in the tablet market.

It might be they have worked with oem's - incentives/guarantess/subsidies /who knows -to get some attractive devices out there

They might also be throwing a vast amount at the marketing.

If they get over 10% of the tablet market - perhaps that is what they are aiming for.

There is some sense in that.

I agree with that. There is no question that Win8 is all about marketing.

It could be thought of as a slightly improved core version of Win7, with a touch phone, tablet UI added; and aimed specifically at that market, with maybe notebook/laptop as a secondary goal.

If they included a direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu, I'd be first in the queue to get one, just for the sake of having the various improvements it has in the OS programs.

 

[legacy7955]

If they included a direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu, I'd be first in the queue to get one, just for the sake of having the various improvements it has in the OS programs.

This is what makes myself and many other MS loyalists HOPPING mad. The ease of making this possible is a literal snap with a few lines of code changes, but they supposedly are blatantly waving that middle finger in our faces insisting that we detour through METRO which on our desktops and laptops we have no want or need of.

A GREAT way to LOSE future business that would have been GUARANTEED otherwise!

I would bet that most MS users are NOT against Metro when it is used in the right context such as on tablets and phones which I would likely be buying but because of this issue with the desktop laptop environment I will take my business for phones and tablets elsewhere UNLESS MS relents.

Of course I will also NEVER put my dollar into ANYTHING Apple, but the most likely recipient will be Linux Mint....I'll be donating to the orgs well.

 

[lehnerus2000]

It would be an automatic buy ...

This is what makes myself and many other MS loyalists HOPPING mad. The ease of making this possible is a literal snap with a few lines of code changes, but they supposedly are blatantly waving that middle finger in our faces insisting that we detour through METRO which on our desktops and laptops we have no want or need of.

A GREAT way to LOSE future business that would have been GUARANTEED otherwise!

It would be an automatic buy for businesses (who haven't upgraded to W7), if W8 was W7 with:

• Improved security.
• Improved speed.
• Lower resource requirements.

It would be saying, "Hey, we have a newer and faster version of Windows than Windows 7, but it looks the same and acts the same and does the same thing as before, but faster!"

That's exactly what Business Managers, IT & Network Administrators want to hear.
It means improved productivity and ROI.

They don't want to hear:

• "All of our staff are going to have to be retrained."
• "We are going to need more staff for the Help desk."
• "We are going to have to buy new touchscreen-compatible hardware."

"Windows 8 Survey: Half Who Have Tried the OS Wouldn't Recommend It" - Page 10 - Windows 7 Forums

Of course I will also NEVER put my dollar into ANYTHING Apple, but the most likely recipient will be Linux Mint....I'll be donating to the orgs well.

I already have a Ubuntu 10.04 install that I use occasionally.
The latest versions have "jumped the shark" or "nuked the fridge".

Some Linux distros are looking more viable everyday (e.g. Linux Mint, CentOS).
Linux Mint 13 (MATE) looks quite promising.