Even most of those who love it, have to use 3rd party apps to love it!

[Ace38]

But that leads into my kind of key question and maybe should have asked right off...does one click to get to the desktop make that big a difference in anyone's productivity?

 

[musiclover7]

But that leads into my kind of key question and maybe should have asked right off...does one click to get to the desktop make that big a difference in anyone's productivity?

I think it does, especially when you watch those videos of new users who cannot even figure out how to accomplish that much. For the rest of us, it is just a steady nuisance, and most users don't want to put up with a steady nuisance in their computer environment for very long. Believe it or not, I like the concept of the start screen, I just think it is poorly implemented. I am one who always appreciates having more ways to do things rather than less, and I don't think I am alone in this. I used Win 8 as my primary OS for about 5 days, and even though I really wanted to like it, I just could not embrace it. Time will tell how this pans out, but I am predicting failure..

 

[SIW2]

It's not about one click to get to the desktop.

It is about the o/s being aimed at tablet users - designed to lure them into the MS clouds.

It gets in the way of anything productive.

The full screen start menu opening up is the last thing you want when you are doing something constructive.

That involves multi tasking - multiple windows open - several progarms running at the same time - using files from across several drives - all at the same time.

Win8 is simply not made for that.

It wouldn't matter if they had a different o/s to offer the serious users ( Apple have a very different o/s on their toys than they do on their proper machines ).

 

[Ace38]

And yet, I'm having no issues multitasking. Oh well, guess it goes to show you cant please all of the people all of the time. You're more than welcome to continue hating it, me? I'll move on liking it.

 

[SIW2]

Depends what kind of multitasking you do.

I just looked at my previous post again - no mention of hate or anything of the sort

 

[Ace38]

I just looked at my previous post again - no mention of hate or anything of the sort[/QUOTE]

I was referring to metro specifically, not the OS as a whole, and perhaps dislike was a better word.

 

[SIW2]

I might like it on a tablet - that is what it is for .

 

[FSeal]

I might like it on a tablet - that is what it is for .

Yes... Tablet UI on a tablet (or phone). Desktop UI on a Desktop. Seems simple enough.

 

[HippsieGypsie]

I agree!

Just use it as is, or dump it!

This 3rd party stuff is just a put-off!

I am getting more out of it every day!

Don't try to change the spots on the Leopard!

Tully

LOL, Tully! It's like buying a Rembrandt or a van Gogh and spray painting inner-city graffiti all over it!

As a young father I caught myself trying to convince my children that my way was the best, just as my father did with my siblings and me. Anyone could see that my children and I got frustrated. I decided thereafter to show them once, maybe twice, how to do certain chores or on homework help. Then allowed them to do things their way. I made sure they got the chores or homework finished, but what usually happens, like with all humans, we suffer pain by mistakes or loss of valuable time, so we end up doing it a different way. They don't do things exactly my way, but close. I learned from them as well. They are all quite happy, independent individuals for the most part. Made me happier too.

 

[musiclover7]

I just think they could have made the start screen much more useful and customizable then they did. Show the current running programs along the top or bottom. Customize look, feel, size of icons and background. The start button should just be there, period, even if it's only function is to bring you to start screen. Small things like this could actually probably win me over. As it is, I could only see it as a nuisance..

 

[Mustang]

Microsoft Attitude

To me the key issue issue is Microsoft's attitude. They refuse point blank to give their army of loyal desktop users the options to totally switch off/on "Metro" (or whatever it's now called), and have a direct boot to desktop with legacy start menu.

To get the improved performance aspects of Win8, which should be in a SP2 to Win7, and have direct boot to desktop/legacy start menu, you must use a workaround like Classic Shell.

Sorry, I won't do business with a company with an attitude where they so easily could please all camps, but won't.

 

[SIW2]

If I may quote from Mike Mace:

you'd think that Microsoft would do everything in its power to make current Windows users feel comfortable and excited about moving to Windows 8.

Instead, they're being confronted with deliberate incompatibilities, indifference toward their needs, and a preview campaign for Windows 8 that has already disenchanted some of the most enthusiastic Windows users.

 

[Mustang]

If I may quote from Mike Mace:

you'd think that Microsoft would do everything in its power to make current Windows users feel comfortable and excited about moving to Windows 8.

Instead, they're being confronted with deliberate incompatibilities, indifference toward their needs, and a preview campaign for Windows 8 that has already disenchanted some of the most enthusiastic Windows users.

Wholeheartedly

 

[jeffrys]

Well Mustang, some months ago I mentioned on the board that Win8 should give the option at install to personalize Windows to what the user needs.

FOR EVERYTHING, like Metro, but also in Office, this should be made possible.

As for the Metro, does it really hurt to click on the desktop to get where you wanna be?

The only thing disturbing with Metro is the background. This could be better, if only that could be personalized. myself I do not really need the taskbar.

Jeff

 

[Mustang]

As for the Metro, does it really hurt to click on the desktop to get where you wanna be?

Thanks for the input Jeff, and I hear what you're saying. It's not that it's so hard to click on Desktop icon, or use Classic Shell.

It's Microsoft's attitude I can't handle, in that they could easily offer those options, but point blank won't.

Like I said in another post, even if the OS is improved, I just don't want to do business with a company that treats it's loyal supporters that way by treading roughshod over their preferences.

 

[Fredledingue]

It's not so much Microsoft's attitude, it's the attitude of saying that we don't like it because we can't change our habit, that we want to stick with the old way and reject change. If you want change to be adopted, then new should be better than old in the first place.

 

[musiclover7]

It's not so much Microsoft's attitude, it's the attitude of saying that we don't like it because we can't change our habit, that we want to stick with the old way and reject change. If you want change to be adopted, then new should be better than old in the first place.

I agree with both sentiments, that people are by and large creatures of habit, and that in order for change to be adopted, the new must be better than the old, else people will be resistant to it. Both are true, and both are reason enough as to why Windows 8 will be a classic failure that business analysts will be talking about for years to come...

 

[SIW2]

MS have made some decisions with win8 that will make it harder.

All this forcing and removing of choice is completely unnecessary and has turned a lot of their existing users against them.

They are doing the right thing making it cheap - that is the only way to sell stuff people don't really want.

Once they have bought it, they will use it, they will put up with it - because it was cheap.

Eventually, they will become so used to it, they will forget they didn't like it. They have been "trained".

I think that approach might work for MS judging from some of the responses on this forum.

 

[jeffrys]

Mustang I used Classic Shell, but removed it again. Do not need this.

Jeff

 

[Fredledingue]

SIW2, "Cheap". For MS maybe, it was cheap job. For us it'll cost $300.