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Solved CLEAN install Win 8 on OEM system w/ NO COA lable - SOLVED


LordX

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After hours of researching various forums - I have solved this riddle!

If all of you would like to know the solution to being able to not only find your unique product key, and being able to clean install and activate - then respond here and let me know!
 

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Why not just post how?
 

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Ztruker

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Because there is no legal way to do this perhaps?

(like the hat Shawn!)
 

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That was my thought as well, but was just curious to see.
 

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LordX

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Totally legit way guys - and here it is:

How to Get Windows 8 to clean install:

Get RWeverything @ rweverything.com

use rweverything to check your ACPI -> MSDM to find out what your key is

Replace or upgrade hard drive.

Clean Install with the SAME version that your OEM machine was installed with.

Once installed and into the OS - load an administrator CMD and use the command: slmgr /ipk

[Product Key] to enter in the key you found using rweverything.

Once I did this - windows 8 automatically activated (must have checked the bios using

slp3.0?) - there was no need to activate over the internet!

ALSO - You could technically replace the hard drive first, and after the clean install run

rweverything (in the case you get a system with a dead hard drive). Just make sure that

you install the version that came with the system!
 

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Yeah, I read that whole forum you posted as part of my research.

The clean install using a generic (non oem branded) win8 disk didn't auto activate when a clean install of win8 was put on.

Note: The key that was found with rweverything IS the key in the BIOS.... the one that is checked.

So once I entered THAT key into the clean install of win 8 - it auto activated.
 

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Ah, ok. I see now. :)
 

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Unfortunately, we can't sticky everything. :(
 

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LordX, sorry to have sounded so negative. I was not thinking of a newer system with the key in the BIOS/UEFI, but older system that you wanted to upgrade to Windows 8 without a key or COA sticker.

I tried RWeverything and on my old Intel P4 which does not have a MSDM entry under ACPI. It sure does pull a lot of data though.

Can you post an example of what the ACPI/MSDM window looks like (blotting out the actual key of course)?
 

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Now - on another forum where I posted this - I got some people saying that their Windows 8 disk required them to put in a key BEFORE it would even install.

So in the case of a failed hard drive - the solution I found for them was to install windows seven (with no key entered) then use rweverything to find the key - then insert windows 8 dvd and install windows 8 with the key they found.

Kind of a pain in the butt.

Rweverything has a portable version - but it would not run on the USB boot tools that I use.

Can anyone here try a PE or USB boot option and see if they can get rweverything to work from there? That would be great!
 

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Nice findings!

So in the case of a failed hard drive - the solution I found for them was to install windows seven
But if the hard drive failed, how are you able to install seven on it?

Can anyone here try a PE or USB boot option and see if they can get rweverything to work from there? That would be great!


I suggest using a Win7/8 or Vista repair disk that you can make on you own system:
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-windows-8-recovery-cd/

Then put it on USB.
Extract the
rweverything folder to USB as well.
Boot with the made USB and in Command Prompt change directory to
rweverything and launch "RW.exe"

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IMPORTANT:
The repair disk needs to be 32bit (made on 32bit system) in order to launch 32bit programs from command prompt.
I believe it's the case for RW to be 32bit as well.

I works with all native and simple programs with no extra framework dependencies
(example .NET requirements, Direct-X, sound, heavy graphics...).
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Secure Boot will stop any boot disk from booting, that is not signed by Microsoft.

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Hopachi - the product key is in the BIOS - not stored on the hard drive - so if a hard drive fails - simply put in a new (or temp one for win7 install).
 

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Hopachi - the product key is in the BIOS - not stored on the hard drive - so if a hard drive fails - simply put in a new (or temp one for win7 install).

That would be a Secure Boot Violation.
 

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Well - I tested this already - I put an old 160gb sata drive into a new ASUS laptop with win8 - and installed win7 no problem..

So what is this secure boot thing?
 

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Well - the machine took the new hard drive without a problem - and installed windows 7 without an issue. So I dont know if this Secure Boot will be an issue for what this thread is about.
 

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