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Why does W8 have so many security prompts?

  1. #1


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    Why does W8 have so many security prompts?


    First things first. I disabled UAC and I turned off SmartScreen as I find them both annoying.

    Why do some many programs require Admin privileges when my user account has it already? Why does a program like 7-Zip give me a message that I need elevated privileges when I right click on a zip file and select the option to extract it to the folder 7-Zip lists? I have granted all the 7-Zip executables Admin privileges. If I didn't I have problems extracting some rar/zip files where some files would not extract mostly executables.

    It seems that W8 wants to annoy the hell out of me. Under W7 I also disabled UAC and never had the prompts for the same things that W8 does.

    I'm running W8 Pro x64 from Technet, so it's RTM.

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  2. #2


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Windows 8 has no more prompts than Windows 7. You also did not disable UAC, otherwise you would not get such prompts. UAC is the only thing that will allow those prompts.

    In fact, you can't really disable UAC (well, you can, but there's no ui for it), all you can do is lower the threshold in which prompts appear.

    User Account Control (UAC) - Change Settings in Windows 8

    What you are seeing is because the folders you are trying to extract to still have Windows 7 security ACL's. You have not yet granted ownership to your Windows 8 account.
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    You need to use the registry key to disable UAC. The slider DOES NOT work properly in windows8. You need to change the enableLUA key.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro X64


    The UAC slider works fine. Perhaps it didn't under the Preview releases. Remember, I am running W8 RTM from Technet.

    Because 7-Zip would not let me extract some files, I discovered I needed to run it with admin privileges. This is exactly what I mean about W8 restricting things more than W7. I never had to run 7-Zip with admin privileges to do anything.

    The Elevation message I mentioned in my OP was caused by giving the 7-Zip program that handles the function I was doing (there a a few 7-Zip exe's for different functions) Admin privileges using Properties. Once I unchecked Admin privileges everything worked fine.

    As further 'proof' of W8's increased security why do I have to run the Command Prompt with Admin privileges for things I never had to do this under W7?

    Perhaps you are running the Preview versions of W8 and not RTM. If things are not like what I say for you and you are running Preview than it seems RTM has changed in this area.
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    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)


    Do metro apps work when the slider is down? YES. Is UAC still enabled when the slider is all the way down? YES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Do metro apps work when the slider is down? YES. Is UAC still enabled when the slider is all the way down? YES.
    So what exactly are you saying? That the slider does work and you were wrong to say it didn't. I'm sorry but I just don't understand your statement.
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    Think about it this way:

    The slider turns uac to a low level - but not off.

    You can turn uac off completely via the registry, but if you do - then some apps. might not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Think about it this way: The slider turns uac to a low level - but not off. You can turn uac off completely via the registry, but if you do - then some apps. might not work.
    Right. In windows 7, the slider completely disables UAC. In Windows 8, it does not. UAC is still very much active, even though "most" prompts should be gone.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro X64


    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Think about it this way: The slider turns uac to a low level - but not off. You can turn uac off completely via the registry, but if you do - then some apps. might not work.
    Right. In windows 7, the slider completely disables UAC. In Windows 8, it does not. UAC is still very much active, even though "most" prompts should be gone.
    Didn't know this at all. Thanks for the info.
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  10. #10


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    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Right. In windows 7, the slider completely disables UAC. In Windows 8, it does not. UAC is still very much active, even though "most" prompts should be gone.
    Actually, no. It was exactly the same in Windows 7. Sliding the slider down did NOT disable UAC. In there was a checkbox to turn it on and off, but they replaced it with the slider in Windows 7 and took away the ability to turn it off from the UI.
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