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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.

  1. #841


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    Windows 7/8


    Could it be as simple as adding a startup task in the task manager to launch the "Desktop App" after a short delay? So you'd see the metro start for a second the on the desktop would come up after login.

    Might try this out if I can remember when I get home...

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  2. #842


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    Could it be as simple as adding a startup task in the task manager to launch the "Desktop App" after a short delay? So you'd see the metro start for a second the on the desktop would come up after login.

    Might try this out if I can remember when I get home...
    That is supposed to work.
    I haven't tried it myself though.
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  3. #843


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I did that with the previous build.

    It saves clicking the desktop icon on start screen .

    It doesn't help much tho - you still get the start screen coming up first.
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  4. #844


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    Always! That's an integration into the start up processes and won't be easy to cut out! It's incorporated into the main shell.

    The one reg value I found points at secondary buttons on the Start screen. Those are the ones past the divider bar you first see after all the preloaded buttons at the left side of the screen there. The divider bar appears for a second when moving the cursor across from the first to second group.

    For the Start screen by itself there would seem to be some type of batch file that loads along the explorer.exe process. It's like having the folder options>view tab set to restore windows upon login when going to restart while having a few WE windows open and once rebooted find them open the way they were. But the Start screen is a bit more complex.
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  5. #845


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    wind0ws 7, 8


    it takes a little getting used to and not all features are bad but whether I will buy it is an entirely differen matter
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  6. #846


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    At this point it's simply a toss in the air as to whether or not I dual boot with it or simply let it pass by like many have already decided on. I'm certainly not any rush to replace 7 any decade soon!
    "Sorry MS! Maybe in the year 2050 or so! At least 2020 just like my vision of what Windows should be like!"
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  7. #847


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    Windows 10 (64 bit)


    5 things Microsoft doesn't want you to know

    ...Windows 7 is a solid, compelling upgrade over Windows XP.
    Windows XP support and security updates are drying up very soon. Many enterprises, knowing where they are in the Microsoft published support lifecycle, have Windows 7 hardware and software refresh programs underway. Having skipped Vista, these companies are standardizing on Windows 7, and they won't be in the market for another desktop upgrade for at least three to four years. ( Going from Windows XP to Windows 8 is not recommended.) Furthermore, few companies will consider hybrid deployments of Windows 7 and Windows 8, since that's a support nightmare. In short, enterprises will probably pass on Windows 8.
    There's very little compelling reason to upgrade to Windows 8 from Windows 7.

    ...you can't help but think that Microsoft faces myriad problems, ranging from too many cooks in the soup to driving individuality in the face of corporate control to simply lacking a grand plan other than "the cloud." Only time will tell if these problems can be solved-but the tea leaves are there for you to read.


    Full article at:

    5 things Microsoft doesn't want you to know | Cloud Computing - InfoWorld
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  8. #848


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    1st W10 Professional x64/W7 Ultimate x64 - 2nd Remote system: W10 Insider Builds/W7 Professional


    "The proof is in the pudding!" as the expression goes! Corporate interests are generally the last to upgrade from the get go! That means retooling all their office workers with new systems and of course a new OS "at their cost"! That;s the bottom dollar on that one!

    Once the 7 beta and RC builds were out I knew right then MS would likely have a hard sell for the next version since they were intent on getting back to their 2-3yrs. time table for each new major release. Then you run into what? A stripped down Windows with a mobile gui tossed on top! Not a great prospect!
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  9. #849


    I can understand Microsoft moving to a core system platform that can be utilized on a number of different devices from tablets to desktops. But to force the same kind of UI across all of them? That's absurd. Each device has different ways in which they are used. The desktop is focused on keyboard and wireless mouse. The laptop is keyboard plus touch pad. And the tablet is touch-screen.

    Microsoft is trying for a rather radical change in the UI paradigm here, without providing any assistance for transition. In Vista, you were given a changed UI but with a "Classic" view that mimics the flow and format of XP. That worked very well for a lot of people. The Vista menu would be fine for your average user and the Classic menu for more technical users. This new UI is going to be problematic for a lot of people. They really need to provide a start menu for those people that aren't quite ready to make the transition to the Metro UI.
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  10. #850


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I think a lot of the discussion has been about a LOT of hypotheticals, which is good. But looking at Windows 8, I think it's about targeting the consumer demographic than JUST businesses. Microsoft has told enterprises on their way to Windows 7 to continue those mitigations, while Windows 8 will be focused a lot more on what the new technology consumer wants. Some of those things happen to be entertainment, which Windows 8 has been optimized and has some integration for. But this isn't to say Windows 8 is just all that, which it's not. It can do everything 7 can do.

    My bet is that we'll have an xp-vista situation, where enterprises stuck to xp while the consumer group was exposed to vista. vista was a bit dangled in front of the gamer crowd with DirectX 10 in fact.

    But the situation will be a 7-8 one, where businesses will stick with 7 while the consumer crowd will be exposed to 8. Unlike vista, I bet it will do real well since it has better support for touch while support mouse and keyboard. 8 will have Xbox integration built in, which is Microsoft's most popular consumer product, and is something familiar but something different.
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This will be Microsofts biggest ever flop, far bigger than Vista.
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