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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #1641


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    not sure what you mean by having the source . this is all new to me of course, just started looking on this site[Using the Checked Build of Windows (Windows Drivers)] and I don't thing it will help finding whats causing a computer to not sleep ,unless one really knows what one is doing ,and that aint me babe .

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  2. #1642


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    not sure what you mean by having the source . this is all new to me of course, just started looking on this site[Using the Checked Build of Windows (Windows Drivers)] and I don't thing it will help finding whats causing a computer to not sleep ,unless one really knows what one is doing ,and that aint me babe .
    What I mean is we are all just scratching the surface and the fix (probably extensive) is not going to be solved with end-user tools and configuration. At least it's not going to consistently solve the problem for most of us experiencing the problem.

    If it's true that Microsoft doesn't care as long as there is a specific configuration or two that works as intended then we are screwed. If that's the case then Microsoft has in effect begun to stop short of full support for open architecture.
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  3. #1643


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    not sure what you mean by having the source . this is all new to me of course, just started looking on this site[Using the Checked Build of Windows (Windows Drivers)] and I don't thing it will help finding whats causing a computer to not sleep ,unless one really knows what one is doing ,and that aint me babe .
    What I mean is we are all just scratching the surface and the fix (probably extensive) is not going to be solved with end-user tools and configuration. At least it's not going to consistently solve the problem for most of us experiencing the problem.

    If it's true that Microsoft doesn't care as long as there is a specific configuration or two that works as intended then we are screwed. If that's the case then Microsoft has in effect begun to stop short of full support for open architecture.
    ok , that sound about right
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  4. #1644


    Agree with you guys. We ain't gonna solve it as there needs to be serious debugging hooks and someone who knows the architecture.

    Didn't know there was a debugging version!
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  5. #1645


    Thanks for the link on the subject in MSDN, Jack. Never knew there was a debugging version either, but I have heard of the Windows Driver Kit, Development, and Driver Verification. As just one possibility of being the culprit, it's a wonder how a faulty driver could be released with all those tools. Ultimately MS is responsible if they're verifying the driver. So that means there are two teams checking the driver before release, both the developers (including OEM partners) and MS. Of course a verified driver that works on one machine may not be suitable for another.

    The list of variables with this problem is long. A very complex problem to solve indeed. BIOS, drivers/peripherals, services, power configuration, OS configuration, accounts, groups, a combination of those, and so many more that have been listed in this thread all have to be factored in. Hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, eh?!
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  6. #1646


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    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for the link on the subject in MSDN, Jack. Never knew there was a debugging version either, but I have heard of the Windows Driver Kit, Development, and Driver Verification. As just one possibility of being the culprit, it's a wonder how a faulty driver could be released with all those tools. Ultimately MS is responsible if they're verifying the driver. So that means there are two teams checking the driver before release, both the developers (including OEM partners) and MS. Of course a verified driver that works on one machine may not be suitable for another.

    The list of variables with this problem is long. A very complex problem to solve indeed. BIOS, drivers/peripherals, services, power configuration, OS configuration, accounts, groups, a combination of those, and so many more that have been listed in this thread all have to be factored in. Hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, eh?!
    Actually if they were to add a "basic mode" where it would disable all the whistles and bells detection it would at least function. That might go a long way for a lot of people.
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  7. #1647


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Actually if they were to add a "basic mode" where it would disable all the whistles and bells detection it would at least function. That might go a long way for a lot of people.
    That's a good idea. I'm not at my tower at the moment. Will a system sleep if in Safe Mode? Not sure if it is a feature included in Safe Mode.
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  8. #1648


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    W8.1 Pro 64


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Actually if they were to add a "basic mode" where it would disable all the whistles and bells detection it would at least function. That might go a long way for a lot of people.
    That's a good idea. I'm not at my tower at the moment. Will a system sleep if in Safe Mode? Not sure if it is a feature included in Safe Mode.
    I'm not where I can test it either but it would be interesting to see if it functions better.
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  9. #1649


    Posts : 2,627
    win8.1.1 enterprise


    Quote Originally Posted by NCguy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Thanks for the link on the subject in MSDN, Jack. Never knew there was a debugging version either, but I have heard of the Windows Driver Kit, Development, and Driver Verification. As just one possibility of being the culprit, it's a wonder how a faulty driver could be released with all those tools. Ultimately MS is responsible if they're verifying the driver. So that means there are two teams checking the driver before release, both the developers (including OEM partners) and MS. Of course a verified driver that works on one machine may not be suitable for another.

    The list of variables with this problem is long. A very complex problem to solve indeed. BIOS, drivers/peripherals, services, power configuration, OS configuration, accounts, groups, a combination of those, and so many more that have been listed in this thread all have to be factored in. Hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel, eh?!
    Actually if they were to add a "basic mode" where it would disable all the whistles and bells detection it would at least function. That might go a long way for a lot of people.
    not sure what a basic mode would be ,but as i said many times in this thread my 8.1 64bit enterprise sleeps on time all the time .iam not using homegroup ,or one drive and most if not all syncing is turned off ,that would be basic to me i guess
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  10. #1650


    Japan
    Posts : 43
    Windows 8.1 Build 9431


    Problems with `Standby` can be motherboard related. The early Z87 motherboards (Haswell) were notorious for it.
    I have one of the iffy ones; the Asus Z87 Sabertooth Ver 1.
    Version 2 has no issues.
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