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Windows 8.1 refuses to sleep

  1. #1311


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BazzaG View Post
    The jury is still out ... but it looks like I may have RESOLVED my PC's sleep issue.

    Ever since I INstalled the Logitech Setpoint keyboard/mouse v6.61.15 64bit drivers a few days ago my PC has sleep as specified by the power plan. It's been 3 days now.

    Fingers & toes crossed ........
    Trying it now. Oh Lord, the apologies I will have to make if it turns out to be a driver issue. Then there will be the confessional and a whole bunch of Rosary prayers for my sins.
    LOL!! Wouldn't go out to get the blue wode yet, John! Bazza may save you with a retraction although I hope, for Bazza's sake, that he doesn't have to.

    I don't know what has happened to my comp of late but I sense a difference. It slept reliably for 10 days on a local account so 4 days ago I went to the MS login. It still stayed reliable. But what I have noticed lately is that it sleeps virtually instantly when I press the kbd sleep button whereas before it delayed 7-8 secs before sleeping. Basically it now slam dunks like all other comps I have used. The timer sleep delay is normally 22 secs now, although it occasionally went to a couple of min.

    Another networked comp was printing from my comp's printer and that raised a srvnet request. That kept my comp awake, as it should, till the srvnet request went away then my comp slept.

    Whether there has been a MS update to help, or something else has changed, I am not sure.

    Will see how long this lasts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  2. #1312


    Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1.1 PRO 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by linw View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Trying it now. Oh Lord, the apologies I will have to make if it turns out to be a driver issue. Then there will be the confessional and a whole bunch of Rosary prayers for my sins.
    LOL!! Wouldn't go out to get the blue wode yet, John! Bazza may save you with a retraction although I hope, for Bazza's sake, that he doesn't have to.
    Well so far my PC continues to sleep AOK. If it does turn out to be a [missing] driver issue I will be kicking myself.

    I always intended to install the Setpoint drivers, however, I didn't because of the insomnia issue. When I opened the "Devices & Printers" C/P app, Windows correctly showed that I had a Logitech keyboard & mouse on the HID interfaces. They both worked without any problems. There was nothing to indicate that there was ANY issue at all, certainly not a sleep issue.

    Anyway, I've just discovered another issue ... using Device Manager I DISabled the option for the mouse to wake the computer. I disabled both the "HID-compliant mouse" & the "Logitech HID-compliant Unifying Mouse", rebooted the PC, waited until the PC went to sleep, then moved the mouse ... which promptly woke the PC!!!!

    Not a sleep issue though.

    I can live with this, whereas I had to have a PC that slept correctly. I had made the decision earlier this week that if I couldn't resolve the sleep problem by this W/E, I would, dare I say, UPgrade to Windows 7.
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  3. #1313


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Gork View Post
    With the recent talk of Logitech devices possibly being an issue I decided to try something I hadn't yet tried. I uninstalled my Logitech software, unplugged my WIRED Logitech mouse and keyboard and booted with a generic ps/2 keyboard installed (and no mouse.) I know this isn't the same thing others were talking about with regard to the wireless Logitech stuff, but I wanted to try anyway. I spent several hours yesterday testing and...

    No dice. Computer still doesn't sleep appropriately.

    I do have a Soudblaster card and know they can be problematic. I haven't tried pulling that card to test yet, and I don't think that'll be anything I do anytime soon. Maybe next time I have to pull the computer apart for something else, but probably not until then.
    Gork, I also tried removing my Logitech Wave keyboard and installing the keyboard that came with this computer (prior to the December updates when it wasn't sleeping) with no results.
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  4. #1314


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Bazz, if you have a wireless Logitech Keyboard and mouse, it does not matter that you disable the wake up computer from sleep option from the mouse as it will still wake it up. that is a hassle with my HTPC as I use the portable table for a snack tray as well as the keybd and mouse and wake up the computer when I move the table due to the mouse moving.
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  5. #1315


    Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1.1 PRO 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Bazz, if you have a wireless Logitech Keyboard and mouse, it does not matter that you disable the wake up computer from sleep option from the mouse as it will still wake it up. .....
    Yes I do .... Logitech wireless desktop combo MK710.
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  6. #1316


    Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1.1 PRO 64bit


    Damn it. Powered up the PC this morning and insomnia is back.

    Yesterday evening and the 3 or 4 preceding evenings my PC was on, the PC slept just as it should. It even slept after trying to remove the ability for the mouse to wake the PC.

    I switched off the PC about 11:30pm Friday night (Aussie time), went to bed, got up this morning & switched the PC on about 7:30am and [numerous expletives deleted] the PC is now refusing to go to sleep.

    I've had enough.

    I will take a quick look at some of the work-arounds mentioned many, many posts ago. If none of them work as I would like, then I will UPGRADE to Windows 7 and right now, I consider Windows 7 a upgrade!!!!

    For me the ability for my PC to sleep correctly is a NEED not a want (for those familiar with Kaufman).

    There is a lot I like about Windows 8, for example, I really like the new start screen. I just wished that MS made the new start screen the *DESKTOP*, ie. you click on a tile & new window would open on top of the start screen just it does on the "desktop". On the other hand, I hate how Metro apps run. Anyway, I've digressed.

    @John ... no need to apologise, nor run off to the confessional, yelling a bunch of Rosary prayers for your sins!!!!
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  7. #1317


    Texas
    Posts : 1,022
    Windows 8.1


    I am so sorry, Bazza! I know how you feel since my PC wouldn't sleep until after the December patches. Also, I thought I had the NumLock problem (not on at bootup) solved, but it came back too.

    For me, this is quite literally the worst job Microsoft has ever done on an "upgrade" OS and I use the upgrade advisedly.

    Although I'm retired, I do some "real" work on a giant lawsuit I'm involved in for our subdivision and do need a reliable PC for my research. That said, Windows 8/8.1 is adequate, but I feel and have felt everyone's pain on this stupid issue.

    <Stands back, hands on hips and says, "I don't keer whut nobuddy says! It ain't no dingblasted driver issue! Microsoft kicked the bucket on this one and should hurry up and retire it. Bring back XP and retire Winders 8!>

    Creakingly climbs down from soapbox . . .
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  8. #1318


    Windows 8.1 = Vista. Period.
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  9. #1319


    Posts : 286
    W8.1 Pro 64


    The NCguy manifesto.

    ok let's say that there technically isn't a problem with 8.1 sleep like some Windows 8. 1 purists have claimed. Well step back and ask yourself how Microsoft could have developed code that is so intolerant that without absolute ongoing perfection from every 3rd party hardware and software component the Windows 8.1 sleep component fails. I contend that while this Microsoft code might "technically" be sound if all the stars are in absolute perfect ongoing alignment, that most would agree that any code that is this intolerant is for all "practical purposes" badly broken.

    If what I'm saying isn't true than how does StandbyHelper manage to do the job that Windows 8 sleep was designed to do but it does it reliably for almost all hardware and software configurations? Clearly it's possible and could be achieved if it were actually a Microsoft priority.
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  10. #1320


    Posts : 51
    Windows 8.1.1 PRO 64bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    I am so sorry, Bazza! I know how you feel since my PC wouldn't sleep until after the December patches. Also, I thought I had the NumLock problem (not on at bootup) solved, but it came back too.

    For me, this is quite literally the worst job Microsoft has ever done on an "upgrade" OS and I use the upgrade advisedly.
    Your symphony is greatly appreciated. I find it very difficult to understand how & why simply turning off & on my PC can re-introduce a problem that had disappeared. Obviously I couldn't make any changes as the PC was powered off. When I turned it on this morning, I walked away to have breakfast & a shower, effectively leaving the PC at the logon screen. Doing the same over the last few days, the PC would simply go to sleep.

    Quote Originally Posted by orbitalfenestra View Post
    Windows 8.1 = Vista. Period.
    I cannot totally agree with that. MS absolutely stuffed up the UI in Windows 8 when running on a desktop PC. Windows 8.1 & Windows 8.1 Spring Update have gone *some* way to resolving those UI issues.

    IMHO, MS should have produced Windows 8 in 2 or even 3 major families. 2 for the mobile market ... 1 for the Mobile phone & another for the tablet/laptop. The 3rd version of Windows 8 would be for a desktop PC. All 3 versions of Windows 8 should be distinctly different, yet similar *BUT* use a UI that is relevant & applicable to the HDW the operating system is running on.

    Looking behind the UI Windows 8.1.x is very good, it's certainly no "Vista" in that respect.

    Anyway, irrespective of ones opinion of Windows 8, this discussion is really off-topic in this thread.
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