Folks, I don't think MS is putting much effort into Technet since they decided to terminate the program. I have seen very few updates in the past few months. For instance, Windows 8.1 RTM has never been released as the last update was 2013-09-09 which was before the release date of October 17th and we never got a full install ISO from them. I was surprise that Enterprise got an update but that is above my subscriber level.
BTW, in reading through the posts here, Coke Robot (how I wish real names were used in forums, sigh) made the point that mixing Start apps with the desktop will make it extremely difficult for touch screen users, as the "close window" icon shrinks up to its tiny, pre touch, mouse orientated size. Now there is a match made in heaven.
XBox One will be getting a major update to the operating system at the same time that Win8.1.1 is getting released. I know MS is trying to blend in phone,tablet,game console, laptops, and desktops into a unifying gestalt of an operating system. Is the timing just coincidental?
On another note about the XBox One, here is a conspiracy that is worthy of the JFK assassination, the moon landings, and 9/11. MS secretly built into the XBox One another entire APU chip stacked under the main chip. Perhaps as soon as the March update, they will start to light up this hidden chip and make the console 60% more powerful, with more to come! Believe it or not:
misterxmedia - Mistercteam Daily. TSV 3D stacking found on Xbox One SOC (stacking proof #3)
... and therefore you sometimes have to overlap to see what you need, when on a small screen.Yes windows overlapping is not the way to go, split screen is way more efficient but problem lays in desktop apps that do not sport ribbon interface. If you take some app like Photoshop you will see that it spans tools and tabs vertically both left and right which significantly kills screen estate in split screen.
I would argue that overlapping is actually more efficient use of limited space, it just doesn't look very nice.
From what I have read this update will be through Windows Update. These leaked versions are full install but are used internally by MS to test them. I don't believe they will be released to the public.
Jim
So what exactly is so hard about doing one of these very simple options to see the modern clock to warrant such a melt down about it??
It only takes a second to do.
If seeing the time is so critical to you, then you might consider setting or hanging a clock next to the computer to always have it available.
Sorry,
I have to agree with the OP on this one, I leave my PC on all the time, I use it as my clock at least with my windows 7 computers, it saves me from having to purchase a clock and take up desktop real estate. It is simple things like these that make Windows 8 such an albatross, everything you want to do always has extra steps added to it.
As Brink Says "The date and time will always show on your desktop taskbar just like it is in Vista and Windows 7."
If you are constantly in , and using, Metro Apps, then it could be a nuisance for the majority to have a clock in there faces, on a full screen display. If, on the other hand, you are using legacy apps on the legacy desktop, nothing has changed.
Hello Justmetoday,
In addition to leaving your PC on the desktop to see the time and date on the taskbar, you could also lock your computer winkey: + L) so that when the lock screen appears shortly after like below, you'll have the modern clock showing in it along with any notifications.
From my experience: while Windows can never be what everyone wants out of the box since that would be impossible, you are able to customize it however you like with whatever you like.
People may ask, but why should I have to?
I say, you don't have to, but why would you not want to.
Sorry,
I have to agree with the OP on this one, I leave my PC on all the time, I use it as my clock at least with my windows 7 computers, it saves me from having to purchase a clock and take up desktop real estate. It is simple things like these that make Windows 8 such an albatross, everything you want to do always has extra steps added to it.
As Brink Says "The date and time will always show on your desktop taskbar just like it is in Vista and Windows 7."
If you are constantly in , and using, Metro Apps, then it could be a nuisance for the majority to have a clock in there faces, on a full screen display. If, on the other hand, you are using legacy apps on the legacy desktop, nothing has changed.
Hello Justmetoday,
In addition to leaving your PC on the desktop to see the time and date on the taskbar, you could also lock your computer winkey: + L) so that when the lock screen appears shortly after like below, you'll have the modern clock showing in it along with any notifications.
From my experience: while Windows can never be what everyone wants out of the box since that would be impossible, you are able to customize it however you like with whatever you like.
People may ask, but why should I have to?
I say, you don't have to, but why would you not want to.
Yes, thank you for the tip, I could do that, or a desktop gadget tool, but just another couple of extra steps, which is what I said was an inherent problem with Windows 8, everything always needs a few extra steps. Why should I lock my machine I am the only one who uses it? However, perhaps my cat uses it behind my back, ummm, he is quite clever.
There is still the problem of always having to exit or switch an app to see the time, as it is on Win 7 if I am browsing or in windows mode I can always see the time. I never use the metro browser.
However, my Windows 8 solution is much more elegant, I use Stardocks Decor 8 software, which allows me to display it on the Start screen. But, why did I have to install Decor 8 for such an easy item?
Yeah, it's not easy to get everything for everyone in it.
You installed Decor 8 to customize it how you like I suppose.
Quote from my earlier post "Alphanumeric's concern could be correct, but I would visualise downloading updates from the normal source as an automatic procedure for corporate users."
An "Escrow" update has been leaked, so the question is, I guess, answered.
I have a shortcut to control panel on my Start Menu. I have room for it so why not. I don't know why Microsoft added it to that Menu. Somebody noticed it being added and pointed it out.
I had to have a go at the Escrow.. kept the image handy though!
There are a couple of updates to be installed before the user can proceed. (One is as large as 10,275 KBs) The major update is itself 573,531KBs.
I am still rooting around, but, so far, have found anything earth shattering.
Good grief, Alpha! For now, I have 8.0 on my desktop and have just installed 8.0 on this laptop. So are you saying it would be best for me to wait until 8.1.1 comes out before updating? Not that I have a problem with that, especially if I'm reading your post correctly because I don't want to jump through the hoops it seems I may have to do.Ah so just having (installed) the 8.1 RTM build won't cut it. You'll have to patch up to the GA build to apply update 1. That's how I read it any way. Anybody with an 8.0 OEM install that needs to reinstall will have to update to 8.1 (though the store), patch to the GA build, and then update again to 8.1.1.
Good grief, Alpha! For now, I have 8.0 on my desktop and have just installed 8.0 on this laptop. So are you saying it would be best for me to wait until 8.1.1 comes out before updating? Not that I have a problem with that, especially if I'm reading your post correctly because I don't want to jump through the hoops it seems I may have to do.Ah so just having (installed) the 8.1 RTM build won't cut it. You'll have to patch up to the GA build to apply update 1. That's how I read it any way. Anybody with an 8.0 OEM install that needs to reinstall will have to update to 8.1 (though the store), patch to the GA build, and then update again to 8.1.1.