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[Bkshiroma]

By the way Master Chief, should I avoid installing any third party firewalls or antivirus programs for the time being, or should I just go ahead and install them?

 

[MasterChief]

By the way Master Chief, should I avoid installing any third party firewalls or antivirus programs for the time being, or should I just go ahead and install them?

I would definitely hold off on these for now, until I have a chance to evaluate the system as is. Many of them are just asking for troubles, especially with Windows 8.

 

[Bkshiroma]

Masterchief --Windows update causes my system to crash

Hi Masterchief.

As you requested here's some of my info. I'll try to force a crash too and add that in the next post on this thread. (By the way, this was pre-crash. I don't know if it makes a difference or not.)

 

[Bkshiroma]

The crash files

Hmm...I guess my thread got moved back here so I guess I'll post the crash files here. Sorry for the inconvenience Brink. I was told to put it in the debug section.

 

[MasterChief]

No inconvenience. I am guessing Brink just wanted one issue to remain in one thread, which does make the most sense and makes it easier for those interested in following or commenting too, to do so.

Your machine is currently in outstanding state for Windows 8 build 9200, x64 (64 bit).

About the only thing I can pick out (which only sometimes can be a problem) is that you do not have Intel's proprietary driver installed for your storage, and that usually means that the Intel Chipset INF Update Utility has not been installed either. So, 2 things. Install both from Intel.com. One storage, one INF Update Chipset Update Utility to install:

Name    Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller - 1E02
Manufacturer    Intel
Status    OK
PNP Device ID    PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1E02&SUBSYS_1E021849&REV_04\3&11583659&0&FA
I/O Port    0x0000F0B0-0x0000F0B7
I/O Port    0x0000F0A0-0x0000F0A3
I/O Port    0x0000F090-0x0000F097
I/O Port    0x0000F080-0x0000F083
I/O Port    0x0000F060-0x0000F07F
Memory Address    0xF7C16000-0xF7C167FF
IRQ Channel    IRQ 19
Driver    c:\windows\system32\drivers\storahci.sys (6.2.9200.16384, 75.73 KB (77,552 bytes), 7/26/2012 11:30 AM)

If Intel's site drives you mad (lol sometimes it does to me, so) see if Asrock has mid-late 2013 drivers for your motherboard model for the things I just said. It's also a good idea to update your bios from there, from the September 11, 2012 version you have now - if new is available.

 

[Bkshiroma]

Another problem, another log

I'll add the chips today. But I'm adding another log, whether, it'll show the exact same info as the last one, I don't know, but since the forced crash, the systems gone loopy again. Namely, it took 5 minutes to shut down, and this morning it took 5 minutes for the tiles menu to appear and another 15 minutes for things to speed up. In short, the same problems I was experiencing after Windows Update crashed the system. Anyway, here it is.

 

[MasterChief]

See about my previous post.

 

[Bkshiroma]

There are a bunch of downloads on the asrock page. Which ones should I download. Perhaps better put, are there any I don't need?

ASRock > H77M and

ASRock > H77M.

That BIOS warning at the top of the page is a little scary.

 

[MasterChief]

Install every driver shown (besides SATA floppy and VGA - you already have latest Intel graphics installed), and latest bios too.

Forget the warning. Just make sure you don't lose power from the wall to your machine for the few seconds it updates. It's very simple/easy.

 

[MasterChief]

Install this INF instead of the one on Asrock's site. If you already installed the one from Asrock, do this one too anyway:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/con...g=eng&Dwnldid=20775&ProductID=816&keyword=inf

 

[Bkshiroma]

I'm away from home right now, so I'll probably try to do everything in about ten hours or so.

The computer shut down as usual this morning before I left. Hopefully it won't take 20 minutes for my system to start running when I get home. Do crashes cause this kind of problem if the BIOS and drivers are not updated?

 

[Clintlgm]

Thanks for the replies all. The truth is, I don't know what the problem is. I'm suspicious, but I don't know the cause of all the problems. If there were errors, the regular Windows check didn't find it (the new Windows 8 error checking tool), and I don't know if chkdsk has found anything because I can't get into the event log. Like I said though, it's a new hard drive that I just bought last year. Can it corrupt that quickly?

What I also know is that a ton of other people have had the same problems as me. I was just looking on the Microsoft forum today, and many other people have recently posted with the exact same complaints concerning Windows Update and crashes. So it could be a Windows Update thing.

Yes hard drive can defect fairly quickly, my last build used 2 WD Black 1TB hard drives, I RMA several before finally getting two that have lasted since 2009.
Its been my experience over the years when sectors start to go the HD is finished best to get your data off it and RMA it if its in warranty

 

[Bkshiroma]

Looking at the chkdsk results, however (if I'm reading it right from the event logs I attached), there don't seem to be any problems with the hard drive. I must say that kind of surprised me.

 

[Bkshiroma]

The fun just continues

Well, guys, the fun just continues. I can't even get my drivers installed because my system is massively slow, and I'm getting zip files (for my driver files that I downloaded) freezing my system when I try to open them. I tried to refresh (the whole windows system, that is), and the dang computer couldn't refresh (what else is new?).

Here is the latest log files as I continue to try to slog through. I may end up reinstalling (at least attempting to) again.

 

[Bkshiroma]

Looking at the update BIOS instructions, it says,

Unzip and save all files to the same directory of any storage location accessible by the host system.

What does it mean, the "same directory of any storage location accessible by the host system?" Is the desktop okay? Does it have to be in the Windows directory?

 

[MasterChief]

It's just their way of saying "extract and run." Desktop is fine.

 

[Bkshiroma]

Everything's done

And just for kicks, my computer decided to throw in one more blue screen of death. This time, a bad pool header, whatever that means.

Anyway, here's the latest of the files. Anything else I should do? Any advice before I take the plunge and try a Windows update?

 

[Bkshiroma]

I will say that at least my computer is now starting up and shutting down okay. Maybe it really is okay?

 

[alphanumeric]

Did you run the manufacturers diagnostic utility on your hard drive? With all the issues your having you either have a hardware problem or corrupted install media.

 

[MasterChief]

Anyway, here's the latest of the files. Anything else I should do? Any advice before I take the plunge and try a Windows update?

Yes. We need to check on CPU and RAM settings.

Please download and run CPU-Z.

Take a screenshot of the first tab, one of the memory tab and then a screenshot for each stick of ram that you have of the SPD tab.

When you take the screenshot of the first tab, try to do it while the cpu use is high and the cpu is under load. Run a game or something like a video encoder in the background.

Post the screenshots to a new post, please.

Also - uninstall Intel Smart Connect software. <<< Important

WPRO_41_2001 WPRO_41_2001.sys Mon Nov 07 16:04:48 2011 (4EB847F0)