I actually like the new OS . . .

[pparks1]

Yeah, sorry about that. I brought up those other monitors, but strictly in the context that they were IPS displays and going to IPS was a good idea. I didn't intend for them to be mistaken as touch screen displays.

So, I'm the type who hates fingerprints on my phone and my tablet. I would assume that fingerprints all over the monitor would drive me nuts too. Anybody else have these concerns with a touchscreen monitor...has has it been for you.

 

[dirtyvu]

those other monitors are great as well. IPS is still beautiful.

But I kept reading in article after article how people would comment that they just got a great large monitor for $150 or $200. But you tell them, "that's not IPS or touch". They just don't know. They gasp at an IPS, capacitive touch 23" display costing $500 and think it should cost $180.

don't I wish it was $180.

 

[pparks1]

Yeah, I always loved those people who spend like $200 on their CPU coolers and case fans, but want to spend the absolute least amount of cash possible on their monitor. It's the thing that you look at and have to see every second that you are using your computer...why would anybody skimp out there. ?But sooooo many people do.

Most hardcore gamers will complaint that refresh rates are way too low on an IPS...but yet they have never tried an IPS before or have any first hand experience as to whether it's going to be a problem.

 

[area 66]

I wouldn't say 27" is too big. For one of my dad's PCs, he has a 47" HDTV. On his desk. It's pretty amazing actually.

47" TV as a pita resolution aside it's not good when it's close

Yeah, I always loved those people who spend like $200 on their CPU coolers and case fans, but want to spend the absolute least amount of cash possible on their monitor.

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they don't understand the importance of the Monitor as a direct contact between the user and the PC, they don't value their vision too.

 

[R0bR]

Get the new Logitech touch pad as it is better ergonomically and adds touch. You can use a mouse for moving around.

I'm using the Microsoft Touch mouse with Windows 8 and it's really good, ironically the gestures are great but the button pressure required to click the regular buttons is annoying. I want to get the new Logitech Touch mouse and try that although that touch pad seems interesting too.

 

[Kat]

I do not have a large monitor, touch or otherwise. Nor do I particularly desire one.

This laptop has an 18.4" HD screen, which is more than adequate (1920x1024).

The other laptop has a 15" screen @ 1366x768, also adequate.

Desktop has a 17" LCD monitor @ 1280x1024, again adequate.

If I need something larger, well there's always my 26" LCD telly @ 1366x768.

And I'm with pparks, fingerprints, dust and smudges on my screen drive me totally 'beresk'.

 

[Tomel]

I went to a 23" monitor a few years ago when Win 7 first came out. My reason was that I loved the "snap" capability and use it almost every day for one reason or another. With a 23" screen and "snap", it's almost like having two separate monitors.

Regarding fingerprints, smudges, etc., I don't like them either. I picked up a large microfiber cloth this weekend. With a very slightly dampened corner of the cloth, I'm able to clean the monitor in less than a minute. Seems like doing this about once a week should keep the monitor looking pretty good.

 

[dirtyvu]

I finally got time to play on my dad's PC to check out the Acer monitor. It's pretty amazing.

The only negative I see is the integrated speakers are really low quality. Maybe the equivalent of $15 computer speakers. If you turn up the volume too high, you get plenty of distortion. But it does let you have a clean desk with no speakers.

I messed up the Windows 8 gestures by going to the touch calibration in the control panel. After calibrating the screen, none of the swipes worked anymore. Resetting the calibration back to default restored the touch functionality. So for those out there with this monitor, don't mess with the touch settings unless you absolutely have to. I'm so used to adjusting these settings because I have an old TabletPC.

Tomel, do you know how far I can angle the arm? It apparently clicks in specific intervals and it's so stiff. I kept apply pressure and pressure and all of a sudden it click into the next interval. I'm afraid of tilting it too much out of risk of snapping the arm off.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Unusual

This laptop has an 18.4" HD screen, which is more than adequate (1920x1024).

That's an unusual resolution.

 

[Coke Robot]

If you place your 23" at good viewing distance, you will develop and shoulder problem in no time. The mouse carpal tunnel syndrome is nothing compare of what will happen to peoples using medium to large touch monitors and Windows 8, Windows 8 represent a serious health hazard on Touchscreen desktop monitor. I will not be surprise if Microsoft pay the price one day.

I've always wondered, have you used a touch screen in a normal usage scenario with a desktop?

 

[Coke Robot]

I went to a 23" monitor a few years ago when Win 7 first came out. My reason was that I loved the "snap" capability and use it almost every day for one reason or another. With a 23" screen and "snap", it's almost like having two separate monitors.

Regarding fingerprints, smudges, etc., I don't like them either. I picked up a large microfiber cloth this weekend. With a very slightly dampened corner of the cloth, I'm able to clean the monitor in less than a minute. Seems like doing this about once a week should keep the monitor looking pretty good.

A better cleaning solution: 50/50 solution of rubbing alcohol (70+%) and water, preferably filtered. Microfiber cloth and everything is squeaky clean and disinfected.

 

[Coke Robot]

Glad you're liking everything!

I must say, jealous of your touch screen. I'm waiting for a real decent and cost effective 27 inch, adjustable touch monitor. Meaning I want a pivot range of 178 to 20 or so degrees. And also, very prudent to change the folder and file view from details to large icons. I have that already, as it actually shows more content than details view.

I can say for sure, touch with Windows 8 is a beautiful combination!

 

[dirtyvu]

I'm sure some enterprising companies will release capacitive touch monitors that are not IPS in order to grab the buyers on a tight budget. I'm just hoping it doesn't cut the legs of the IPS monitors because if the average joe see one monitor going for $300 and the other going for $500 and thinks they're functionally the same, that's not good news. That can keep the prices of IPS high as manufacturing capacity remains with standard TN panels. On the other hand, maybe that the competition will drive IPS panels lower.

 

[Coke Robot]

I'm just wanting to see a 27 inch touch monitor that doesn't cost 100 dollars per inch after the 23 inch mark...

 

[Tomel]

dirtyvu . . . Regarding the viewing angles, take a look at the user guide at the following web address. I found the support arm very stiff also and was initially concerned I might break it. However, now that I've been using the monitor awhile, I've got an angle that works good for me and will probably rarely, if ever, change it.

Acer Support: Downloads & Support Documents - Monitor / T Series / T232HL

Also, I agree with you that the speakers are the only disappointment with this monitor. They're usable and it gives me a little more desktop space not having separate speakers. That's about all that can be said.

Regarding a 27", I almost waited since Acer is supposed to come out with this same monitor in a 27" format later this month. I finally decided that paying an extra $300 for moving up to a 27" was more of an impulse purchase than a real need. I like the 27", but the 23" fully meets my needs.

 

[area 66]

A better cleaning solution: 50/50 solution of rubbing alcohol (70+%) and water, preferably filtered. Microfiber cloth and everything is squeaky clean and disinfected.

NEVER use rubbing alcohol , it contain camphor or other stuff that will leave a residue.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
Having just tried the RT tablet connected to an external monitor -- i've found that the best way of using touch is to use touch on the tablet -- if I've got a 27 inch monitor or bigger it's too far away from me (or should be) to conveniently touch it -- and I've LONG arms too.

Touch IMO was designed really for things like tablets and phones -- not HUGE monitors. !!! That's why I'm really pleased the Ms tablets have HDMI out which you can connect the external monitor to.

You'll need a mini HDMI==>std HDMI connector but these are easy to find.

I can't really see why I'd want greasy fingers on an expensive large monitor anyway. Tablets work fine for this purpose --will be looking at the SURF PRO when it launches in January.



Cheers
jimbo

 

[area 66]

Jimbo, just imagine those kids touch screen monitors when they are eating cheese curls and other stuff, it's a whipper they gone need ....

 

[Tomel]

In my post that started this thread, I mentioned a few changes I'd like to see Microsoft incorporate into Win 8. Here's another suggestion to add to the list.

Make the "snap" feature work the same with Metro apps as it does for non-Metro apps and like it did in Win 7. When you're using non-Metro apps, the "snap" feature divides the screen exactly in half. If you're using Metro Apps or one Metro App and one non-Metro App, "snap" does not use half the screen for each. In fact, it uses a small vertical strip for one app (which I understand from web searches is 320 pixels wide) and the remainder of the screen for the other app. This simply doesn't work for me and means that I will continue to use non-Metro Apps for certain things that I do on a regular basis.

 

[dirtyvu]

dirtyvu . . . Regarding the viewing angles, take a look at the user guide at the following web address. I found the support arm very stiff also and was initially concerned I might break it. However, now that I've been using the monitor awhile, I've got an angle that works good for me and will probably rarely, if ever, change it.

yeah, I was hoping that the monitor arm would support a position where the monitor is flat or near flat to the ground. like how the sony and dell monitors work. that would be pretty cool with some of the apps like the air hockey one.