How many of you also have an Apple computer?

[saracen67]

Had Mini mac and have iMac, dabbled with iPad and iPhone but now Android user. I use Windows and Mac OSX but find myself edging back towards M$ Windows as I feel Apple are not selling the value for money and reliable gear they used to do. They've lost something special as some of the decisions and poor manufacturing flaws like the wifi issues with ios 6- 7 on iPhone 4/4s and expensive cheap breakable tat they peddle now is starting to wain. The once flawless Mac OSX is also now buggy and seemingly needs a ridiculous amount of hardware horsepower to run it smoothly. Nah I'm back to M$ until someone at Apple wakes up.

 

[XweAponX]

apple needs to extent themselves out a bit more because they will NEVER allow mac os to be ever used on a non-mac PC. EVER. The ONLY way is to do a hackintosh type setup, but even then...

I feel the opposite, if I can't change window/accent colors, have 50/50 window app snap, a decent File Explorer, and be able to deploy custom images with decent amounts of ease I'm lost. I can't even use mac os PURELY because of the lack of window snapping, that will get annoying REAL quick. It just feels too constricting for my tastes and honestly seems like it's stuck in the year 2006.

I've tried to install Hackintosh over and over and over and the last time I attemped it, it cost me a great Gateway laptop that had a 17" screen and HDMI output. It was an intensive install that took over an hour and it overheated the power section and blew out the whole block. I'm still really bummed for that.

I give them credit for doing Bootcamp though, they didn't have to develop it, but they did and you can at leats set up newer macs with dual boot.

So, let me get this right, you don't like MacOS cos there is no SNAP? We didn't have it until Windows 7 anyway, I;'ve been using computers that never had that feature for way longer than I've had it, so it doesn't bother me, I don't use it that much anyway.

But you are probably right, Apple will NEVER make a universally-installable OSX for PC computers.

 

[XweAponX]

The Mac Mini is basically an all-in-one without a screen. It's Apple's cheapest computer.

I like using Windows more and the sky's the limit with respect to hardware on the Windows side. After the introduction of the trashcan Mac Pro, that was it for me.

Ok, I know what you mean, they look like a larger, whiter Apple TV box. Those are actually pretty cool, I want one, sell me yours?

And you hit it right on the head that the basic problem with Apple Desktops and Laptops is the lack of software, which is why I chose Windows long ago. The biggest Apple Users are the Special Effects companies in Hollywood etc, that's mostly what Macs have been used for. Also, Avid consoles are mac driven I think- I have an Avid keyboard I use for Pro Tools.

On the reverse, Apple has the Lion's Share of Device Applications, for tablets and phones, the Apple store dwarfs even Googol Play.

The Windows 8 "Store" is lacking in any useful apps, I heard that VLC has finally been added, but they really have nothing useful - I installed a Sound Recording Program that could do multiple tracks, but it was crash city. I know Cokey will argue this, but maybe he';s found some useful things in the store, but I have not. But I have no need for any tile apps at all, I have no Touch devices that are windows.

Windows PCs have the best Desktop Programs, but to get the same amount of app choices for a device, for that you have to go for an Apple device. My iPhone and iPad are the central pieces of my home network, with the helper apps all connected I can connect to any of my PCs and use practically any app that's installed remotely. And if I want to watch a movie that's on any of my PCs I can just stream it right into my devices.

 

[Sammy388]

At work I use a PC and at home we have a PC but my personal laptop is a mac. I still love apple products and think being able to use both is a valuable work-trait

 

[Chuck38]

At work I use a PC and at home we have a PC but my personal laptop is a mac. I still love apple products and think being able to use both is a valuable work-trait

I think you're right, it is a valuable work-trait.

 

[robinb9]

I only have an ipad

 

[Chuck38]

I only have an ipad

I've held the NEW iPad Air!! It is so light weight!!

 

[pparks1]

The once flawless Mac OSX is also now buggy and seemingly needs a ridiculous amount of hardware horsepower to run it smoothly. Nah I'm back to M$ until someone at Apple wakes up.

I don't think OSX was ever flawless, but as somebody new to Apple and OSX, my MacBook Pro doesn't have a ridiculous amount of hardware and this thing runs great. I've got a work laptop with more horsepower and my kids have a personal laptop with less power and this MacBook Pro is in between them and performs exactly as I would expect. My battery life is better than I would expect and the instant on/off from sleep is awesome. I never have to reboot this computer.

 

[XweAponX]

The once flawless Mac OSX is also now buggy and seemingly needs a ridiculous amount of hardware horsepower to run it smoothly. Nah I'm back to M$ until someone at Apple wakes up.

I don't think OSX was ever flawless, but as somebody new to Apple and OSX, my MacBook Pro doesn't have a ridiculous amount of hardware and this thing runs great. I've got a work laptop with more horsepower and my kids have a personal laptop with less power and this MacBook Pro is in between them and performs exactly as I would expect. My battery life is better than I would expect and the instant on/off from sleep is awesome. I never have to reboot this computer.

Between OSX on a Motorola chip and OSX on an Intel chip, the Motorola version was relatively flawless, I've never had any major crashes.

You should try Bootcamp, it's pretty easy to set up once you find the right version of Bootcamp for your system/OS.

 

[m4v3r1ck]

Mac Pro 3.1 (2008) running  OS X 10.8.5 Mountain Lion & BootCamped :winkey: 8 Pro x64...
Never ever been happier with a computer combo like this one!

Best for both worlds

 

[Sammy388]

I'm also curious to see how many ppl here have an ipad or some other apple product (but a windows at home)

 

[paulsalter]

I'm also curious to see how many ppl here have an ipad or some other apple product (but a windows at home)

I have an iPod Touch, but find I use my windows phone more nowadays as a media player

 

[Arpan]

I hate Apple. Every damn Apple product. They make me sick. Never used one of their products, and don't hope to use ever in my life.

(My views on the fruit-company may be slightly dogmatic, but who cares?)

Oh, if you aren't already aware:

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Apple sucks.

 

[pparks1]

I'm also curious to see how many ppl here have an ipad or some other apple product (but a windows at home)

My wife has a Windows 8 laptop, used to have an iPhone, but now has a Samsung Galaxy S3, and she has an iPad Air.

 

[pparks1]

I hate Apple. Every damn Apple product. They make me sick. Never used one of their products, and don't hope to use ever in my life.

So you hate everything, but you have NEVER used one of their products? That doesn't make for a very compelling argument to others to avoid their products.

Apple sucks.

My new MacBook Pro is the first Apple device I've ever bought for myself. Over the years, I've never been able to justify the price premium, but over time that premium has dwindled. Sure, I can still find a cheaper Windows laptop...but then it's a cheaper built, slower and less powerful laptop. If you get up to a nice resolution screen, aluminum body, all day battery life, light weight, with 256GB PCI-Xpress SSD and 8GB of RAM...it ends up being a $1300+ Windows PC.

OSX and the MacBook pro is not all rainbows and unicorns. Some things are done very well, some things are lacking. Overall I'm satisfied with my purchase, it's the computer I am now using 95% of the time at home. But I'm by no means an Apple diehard at this point. I'm not eliminating the use of Windows. I'm not convinced OSX is by far a better OS, I'm not telling everybody that I know to run out and buy an Apple computer.

It met my needs perfectly
1). Gave me something new to learn
2). Lasts 3+ days easily on a charge
3). Goes to sleep and comes out of sleep within 2 seconds.
4). Is extremely quick.

My #1 above was #1 to me. I have a Windows 8 ultrabook from work that I carry. My wife has a Windows 8 Ultrabook with Touch. My kids have a Windows 8 laptop with touch. I setup and maintain lots of Windows 8 laptops at work. To me, getting another Windows 8 computer would have just been boring and more of the same 'ol same 'ol. With this MacBook pro purchase, I'm having to learn lots of things all over again and experience a different methodology for completing tasks. It's been a fun learning experiment.

 

[Arpan]

Hi pparks,

Don't take it seriously mate, in that post I also mentioned this:

(My views on the fruit-company may be slightly dogmatic, but who cares?)

While I have many valid reasons to hate apple, but the extent to which I hate that company is unreasonable. I guess, born to hate apple.


What I hate most about Apple is its marketing:

You are using Apple products, the most premium stuff. Now you are part of the "mac community". Apple products have no issues. "Everything just works!" Those who use Windows/Android/Linux are too poor to afford our premium products.

Good job, Apple.

 

[robinb9]

I-ipod, 1-ipad air, 1-iphone5s

 

[Arpan]

Actually more than Apple, I hate the Apple fanboys who would go on singing praises for this company relentlessly. No matter what.

This kinda sums up for me:


Apple's attitude of what-we-think-is-right-for-you-is-in-fact-what-is-right-for-you is most annoying. I'm saddened that Microsoft seems to be following their footsteps. But at least, Windows users won't tell you "windows just works". There is NOTHING that "just works".

 

[pparks1]

Hi pparks,

Don't take it seriously mate, in that post I also mentioned this:

(My views on the fruit-company may be slightly dogmatic, but who cares?)

While I have many valid reasons to hate apple, but the extent to which I hate that company is unreasonable. I guess, born to hate apple.

That's fine, lots of people hate companies for irrational reasons. Lots of people hate things that are extremely popular but aren't appealing to them.

I just have a hard time placing much value into the opinions of those with either hate and completely dismiss a company or those who are Apple zealots. In most cases, they don't have compelling arguments, they just speak from emotion more than fact.

What I hate most about Apple is its marketing:

You are using Apple products, the most premium stuff. Now you are part of the "mac community". Apple products have no issues. "Everything just works!" Those who use Windows/Android/Linux are too poor to afford our premium products.

Good job, Apple.

Agreed that they have done quite a lot with marketing. But you have to look at both sides of the coin to get the full story. Are their products infallible and never break and crash? No, absolutely not. But, consider the commentary from a different perspective.

#1). They put together their own hardware and their own OS, so they don't have near as many compatibility issues that plague other PC makers. However, that also limits the # of configurations and choices that you can get. So, while Apple may only have a few different products to pick from, they do generally work as advertised
#2). Many home users, who aren't very savvy, have been plagued with virsues, spyware and malware in the Windows world. Many of these problems stemmed from their use of Windows XP where they were administrators, but it's something that they remember. These problems, while not completely non-existent in the Mac world, are pretty darn rare when compared to a Windows user.
#3). Apple stores do a great job with customer service. You can get a machine or device replaced often right on the spot.
#4). Built-in apps like Time Machine make backups and restore an absolute breeze on a Mac. You literally plug in your external hard drive, let it backup, then if you go to the Apple store and they replace your MacBook, you bring your new unit home, boot and press Control+R, choose restore from Time Machine, wait a bit and your machine is exactly right back where you left it.

So, to people who say, Apple products have no issues...well they are just foolish if they believe this. However, Apple has done a pretty good job making them easy for the general public to use, and they have also made them quite easy to backup and restore. Also, Apple hardware is pretty well built. Sure, you get an occasional failed hard drive, or stick of RAM that goes bad like anything else, but you don't have "cheapo" parts that are far more prone to breaking down that you see in the sub $500 PC/laptop market.

 

[pparks1]

Actually more than Apple, I hate the Apple fanboys who would go on singing praises for this company relentlessly. No matter what.

Yes, I also find this extremely annoying and it doesn't carry any weight with me. But it's not that much different from those who have no experience and bash the company endlessly, and fail to see any value for anybody in any of their products.

I work as an IT systems engineer. Been doing this since around 1999. Have lots of friends who are engineers as well. Microsoft certified, Cisco Certified, VMWare Certified, Linux certified, etc. Quite a few of us make our living supporting Windows and Linux servers for a living. And quite a number of us are also purchasing Apple products for personal use. < We are NOT fanboys, we don't sing praises and live in a mythical land where we believe that "everything is awesome". Most of us are satisfied completely with our purchases. Our satisfaction often doesn't come easy. To me, that says quite a bit. None of my friends will say their MacBooks are the best computers at everything, but they also won't say, "these things suck, I hate Apple".

I don't have an iPod and never have. Always found better values elsewhere. Never had an iPhone and don't want one. Too many limitations for me personally and not enough choice. But I do enjoy my MacBook Pro.