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Thanks again, David. I have to think about this really. It's new for me to not have an email program in my computer. When I got my first computer I used outlook express and it was nice and easy. Then I had trouble and went to thunderbird which sort of looks the same. I know in my mind you are prolly right but I need to take some time to think about it. Thanks!


Worth a try, and thanks kind Sir.

Sue

I've used Gmail for many years.
Works good.
I keep a tab open to my inbox so I get to see the latest mail---

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gmail is nice.
microsoft mail is useful for mailto links.

Windows Live Mail---

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With Gmail I would need to change my address so I really don't want that one.

I don't know about windows live mail but when something comes up when I try to send a mail when I am online a big blue box comes up and it's hard to navigate. I wish it wasn't so. Years ago when I clicked on a "mail to" spot it came up in my regular mail.

The other mail program mentioned is new to me. It doesn't seem too well known.
 

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I have offered help.
Suit yourself.
 

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And you are helpful, David....please don't give up on me. I apologize for being a block head. I really don't want to create a new address because I am a senior with way too many contacts who would lose me because they are blockheads too.

I just answered some more email and when I deleted my mail stupid thunderbird froze up again. My husband suggested I try outlook express again but it costs over a hundred bucks now. When I began playing on the computer, it was free....sheesh.

I don't know how or where to go to get a good email program to use. Sorry for making my frustrating problem frustrating for you....but it is what us old gals are good at, haha!
 

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....I am beginning to think we should not be allowed behind the wheel of a car driving and we shouldn't be allowed on the computer too. We should stay home and knit. Oh that would bore me to death:)
 

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Don't knit. scared.png

Unless you want to. :cool:

You scare me with such thoughts.:shock:
 

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I was away for the most of the day since making my posts. I was supposed to be concentrating on what I was doing but I thought about getting an email program all afternoon. I don't want to knit and don't like scaring people.
 

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Windows live mail, free from here Windows Essentials - Download Windows Live Essentials is the best.

Anyone who says otherwise is simply wrong as it is a matter of fact not opinion.

Well, Adam, I must be wrong for using the Modern Mail app for the past 2 years without any problems whatsoever. I used WLM when using Vista and 7 for an estimated 6 years. I find the Modern Mail app to be easier to use, especially that it works in conjunction with the Calendar, People, Photos, and other apps which is using the system's efficiency as a whole. It's also walled-gardened so therefore safer to use. I get popup notices even if the app is closed. Also when not in use it goes into a dormant state using less resources, which is particularly handy on a pad, laptop, or hybrid.

If I remember correctly WLM uses POP rather than IMAP that the Modern Mail app uses, which to me is a much more sophisticated technology giving users more options.

Pros and cons as stated in this article: Post Office Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

◾POP is a much simpler protocol, making implementation easier.

Email clients use it for cost savings on server space and maintenance.

◾POP mail moves the message from the email server onto your local computer, although there is usually an option to leave the messages on the email server as well.

Can someone report on whether this option remains in WLM or other programs? I think it is, but don't remember.

◾IMAP defaults to leaving the message on the email server, simply downloading a local copy.

If no option of keeping a copy on a server, this is quite important if something happens to a system whereas there's loss of data, unless one backs up their email folder. Then why should we, if there's a copy on the server.

◾POP treats the mailbox as one store, and has no concept of folders

I think this depends on the version of POP.

◾An IMAP client performs complex queries, asking the server for headers, or the bodies of specified messages, or to search for messages meeting certain criteria. Messages in the mail repository can be marked with various status flags (e.g. "deleted" or "answered") and they stay in the repository until explicitly removed by the user --which may not be until a later session. In short: IMAP is designed to permit manipulation of remote mailboxes as if they were local. Depending on the IMAP client implementation and the mail architecture desired by the system manager, the user may save messages directly on the client machine, or save them on the server, or be given the choice of doing either.

This means a much better searching system. e.g. By date, a word or number (whether in the header or body), folders, flags, etc. Here's a snip in the advanced search in Outlook.com.

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◾The POP protocol requires the currently connected client to be the only client connected to the mailbox. In contrast, the IMAP protocol specifically allows simultaneous access by multiple clients and provides mechanisms for clients to detect changes made to the mailbox by other, concurrently connected, clients.

This means a company or organizations can have an account where multiple users can access it simultaneously.

◾When POP retrieves a message, it receives all parts of it, whereas the IMAP4 protocol allows clients to retrieve any of the individual MIME parts separately - for example retrieving the plain text without retrieving attached files.

This means I get to see the body before attachments are downloaded which is another safety feature.

◾IMAP supports flags on the server to keep track of message state: for example, whether or not the message has been read, replied to, or deleted.

So therefore whatever device I use for that account it shows the current state of any email.

Bottom line is that I'm here to state as a fact and not opinion that the Modern Email app included is indeed better in many ways. Also as with other MS apps, it's just a matter of time it will be pulled from the lineup.

To be fair, here is some more facts about IMAP's pros and cons.

Internet Message Access Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Edit:

Not saying the Modern app is perfect, but personally I never had a problem with it.

http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/55879-wlm-win-8-1-emptying-all-folders.html
 

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I use Thunderbird, started using it a few years ago. I also use MailWasher Pro (yes, I paid for it). MailWasher checks all my email accounts and I can weed out what I don't want before downloading from the server.
 

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Yes, Like I stated earlier, Windows Live Mail is good.

& free. :)

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I don't know if I will like this but someone here suggested it so imma try it out.


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I've been using eMClient for a couple of years now, and I find that it suits my needs. And I'm pushing mid-60 years old, so it's not as if I "grew up" with PCs.
(as a side note, my 94 year-old Father has recently replaced his old desktop PC with a new HP Laptop running Win 8.1 .... so there is hope for us 'old' folk yet .. )
 

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Wow, David, thanks and I think the same of you. Not often can a person go into geek forums and not get egged.

LOL Atom, I guess there is hope for us yet. That is encouraging.

I understand now about Windows live mail now. If eM Client fails me I will try that out next.

I do wish Thunderbird kept working for me.

I am amazed at the ages here and it's nice to see.

Thanks everyone.......much appreciated.
 

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Well, Adam, I must be wrong for using the Modern Mail app for the past 2 years without any problems whatsoever. I used WLM when using Vista and 7 for an estimated 6 years. I find the Modern Mail app to be easier to use, especially that it works in conjunction with the Calendar, People, Photos, and other apps which is using the system's efficiency as a whole. It's also walled-gardened so therefore safer to use. I get popup notices even if the app is closed. Also when not in use it goes into a dormant state using less resources, which is particularly handy on a pad, laptop, or hybrid.

If I remember correctly WLM uses POP rather than IMAP that the Modern Mail app uses, which to me is a much more sophisticated technology giving users more options.
I use both actually - I like the pop-ups on the mail app (and the live tile and lock screen status) but find composing mails and especially searching easier in WLM. I also far prefer WLM to Outlook (or the mail app) as you can get a consolidated inbox if you have more than one account.

IMAP can be used on any of these clients.
 

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I use gmail and have just found a way to make it default email in my pc but the last time I tried to explain how I got shot at for alleged spam, which of course, it wasnt.
 

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My apology to the OP if it seems like we are hijacking your thread. Please consider our debate as informational. And believe you me > We do like to debate! ;)

I use both actually - I like the pop-ups on the mail app (and the live tile and lock screen status) but find composing mails and especially searching easier in WLM. I also far prefer WLM to Outlook (or the mail app) as you can get a consolidated inbox if you have more than one account.

IMAP can be used on any of these clients.

Ok. Fair enough. There are pros and cons to every app. I just didn't think it was fair to claim it as fact. Personally it's a stick in my craw that the Modern apps weren't given a fair chance. Admittedly they were crap when first released due to MS's mistake of releasing the whole system too soon IMO, but gradually through time and updates they have become great apps. I can't stress enough the functionality of efficiency that they work in conjunction of one another.

It's good that one can have a combined inbox if that's what one prefers. Personally I keep my business account separate from personal. And there are more options of fonts, colors, stationary, etc., but MS is attempting to keep the system footprint small.

Not so sure on the IMAP thing. Question is, is it being used by all clients? ;)

Peace, Bro. :)
 

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