Windows 8.2. New Changes Are Coming

Windows 8.2. New Changes Are Coming

Windows 8.2. New Changes Are Coming - Business 2 Community

The recently released operating system Windows 8.1 is a thing of the past. Microsoft is attentively monitoring the reviews for this version and the company has already started to create a list of changes that will appear in the new Windows 8.2. We’re intriducing you the most interesting features of the upcoming Windows 8.2 operating system.
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[mdmd]

What point are you making with the video. I don't get it. Sorry, I am a little slow.

It's new. It's what's new. Not stuck in the past.

 

[whs]

OK, understand. Nice for tablets but a Pita on a desktop with a mouse.

 

[mdmd]

OK, understand. Nice for tablets but a Pita on a desktop with a mouse.

It's your view. Not fact. A declarative statement that is unsupportable. My view, not a pita on a desktop.
I don't want a tablet. You are a fan of Mint. I loathe Mint. I find UNIX systems cumbersome and a bore.
I think Windows 7 is an aging dinosaur. I wouldn't use it or any flavor of UNIX.

I'm not saying its not a pita for you, I am sure it is.
I don't use stuff that is a pita.

 

[whs]

I'm not saying its not a pita for you, I am sure it is.

Thanks for letting me have my own PITA.

 

[jimbo45]

This whole Windows 8 issue is not about the new UI or one tile more or less. It is about the direction that M$ is driving the market and the future implicatio on your pocket book.

Hi there.

Markets go where THEY want to go -- businesses can push and strive to nudge (or even co-erce) them into directions they THINK the market OUGHT or WANT it to go but it doesn't happen -- Markets are fickle unpredictable institutions that do what THEY want to do.

Anybody who even slightly thinks OTHERWISE should certainly stay away from any sort of Stock trading or any other sort of trading --and you can see the past is littered with a whole slew of products that logically had a possibly great future but just never made it whereas a load of inferior products did for example the whole VHS vs BETAMAX thing in the days of Videotape, or Minidisc vs Cassette tape or even CD. SACD also hardly got passed the drawing board but fairly poor quality music via Ipods etc ruled the roost.
Blu Ray Discs also are living on borrowed time as Internet downloads at decent video quality become increasingly more available.

If the market doesn't like windows 8..1 or future releases it won't succeed - if the market likes it it will. This isn't really about innovation per se but whether Ms can continue to make money in what is essentially a mature and stable - possibly even a decreasing market.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[waltc]

You're saying you like it?.... Sure, you can vote!...I want to hear this...

If there is nothing here that is of interest, then you might as well use Windows 7, Linux or Apple.

[video=youtube_share;rqBkrFEJsOY]http://youtu.be/rqBkrFEJsOY[/video]

No, because under the hood (gui) 8.1 is better, imo...

 

[CountMike]

You're saying you like it?.... Sure, you can vote!...I want to hear this...

If there is nothing here that is of interest, then you might as well use Windows 7, Linux or Apple.

[video=youtube_share;rqBkrFEJsOY]http://youtu.be/rqBkrFEJsOY[/video]

No, because under the hood (gui) 8.1 is better, imo...

And so is engine and chassis.

 

[waltc]

"Incompatible" has nothing to do with viruses and BSOD's.... "Incompatible" in that touch screen user interfaces don't belong on non touch-screen devices, and vice-versa.

A declarative statement that is unsupportable.
I like getting into the spirit of what's new and coming in 8.2

http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/9004-uncontestable-proof-metro-touch-only.html

Come on, what has that thread to do with me?...you are deliberately being obtuse, and you know exactly what I mean. I guess you're one of those folks who feels it a mission in life to prove to other people why their declarative statements aren't true... I wish you luck in your endeavors! (I frequently make declarative statements that are expression of my opinions....and nothing else, btw... ) I like strong opinions, especially when they are as easily justifiable as mine in this instance.

 

[waltc]

... But Microsoft has done its bloody best since 8.0 shipped to obfuscate that fact and hide it from as many people as possible.

How do you know it was their intent to obfuscate and hide it?

I am looking forward to the changes in 8.2+ with further enhancements.

How do I know...? Maybe, because as I've said, they advertise the RT ui approximately 700% more than the explorer.exe ui for Win8? In one 8.1 product advertisement page I saw recently, a total of eight monitor screens were imaged, one after the other, in serial fashion, from the top of the page to the bottom. The first seven screenshots of 8.1 featured touchscreens and the RT ui; the last image at the bottom featured a *gasp* computer with a real mouse and keyboard and a nice big monitor--showing--those ugly tiles again, of course...

And you ask, "How do you know?..." Psshawwww.... (open your eyes, look around!)

Instead of asking me silly questions--why not dig up a link in which you can point me toward a Microsoft ad for Win 8 that shows a desktop festooned with shortcuts instead of tiles, and quotes a Microsoft employee explaining to the world at at large that all of those colorful tiles are "optional" with Win8. I'll await your link with interest. I've yet to see a single ad of that description--which is why it's plain to me that although the garish tiles are optional in truth, people won't be discovering that information from a Microsoft source, unfortunately. It'll come from their own experience, or from other users' comments on the subject. In a perfect world, Microsoft should be advertising *both* ui characteristics for Win8--it'd help their sales tremendously. Alas, such is not the case.

As far this 8.2 rumor is concerned--I'll believe it when I see it....

 

[waltc]

why would I want to waste my time doing that when I can download the Classic Shell Start Menu (4.0.2) for free. The way I see it, he's doing my work, your work, and much, much more, for his own reasons and I'm reaping the benefit. You should check it out. 4.0.2. It's terrific--and goes beyond Microsoft and provides toggles to turn the desktop hotspots on & off and even the side-bar charms, if you want...

I think the Classic Shell is a bore. Spending money on customizing my OS is fun.
People customize their cars, don't they? Why do so many think it should be free?
If you don't see any tiles, why not just use Windows 7

I already answered your last question: I prefer 8.1 because under the hood 8.1 is simply better than Win7. Under the hood = underneath that awful tile-based ui. Again, if you have a touchscreen--the tiles are fine--great even, because they are designed for touch-screens, pudgy fingertips, relatively small screens, low information, big fonts, etc. If you don't own or want a touchscreen, like me--the tiles just get in the way. That's it.

About Classic Shell....*golf-clap*.... Ah, I have finally gotten an opinion out of you...! Great! How can I disagree with your opinion? It's your opinion, but not mine, obviously. You don't like Classic Shell and want to spend money buying inferior software--be my guest! It's a free country...

Look, I think we've both carried all this a bit too far, don't you? It doesn't bother me at all if you don't share my opinions, because I might not share yours. That's nature of opinions as the old saying goes--like armpits, every one of us has at least one...

 

[jimbo45]

Hi guys
C'mon get this thread back on track -- There's utterly No point in behaving like a bunch of idiotic politicians screaming and yelling saying "My way or No way".

Windows is akin to a piece of wood -- people will work the wood in many different ways and what is good for one won't be good for another.

Same with windows -- it's just a TOOL -- how you use your computer is UP TO YOU.

For some the Metro UI is fine - for others it is HORRIBLE - for instance if you need to design complex engineering machinery - you might need at least 3 complete screens to explode various parts of the machine while a 4th could be used as a very sensitive pen to draw a part to scale.

Nothing to do with Modern, Progressive or all the other claptrap that's been thrown around in the thread.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[mdmd]

No, because under the hood (gui) 8.1 is better, imo...

And so is engine and chassis.

ok. Yes. Right. But as Windows 8+ is designed,
tifkam is just a Launchpad for the under the hood gui engine and chassis.
And, I am guessing Windows will only get more enhancements to tifkam.

To me, it's about what's new. A new approach to using Windows.

...one of those folks who feels it is a mission in life to prove to other people why their declarative statements aren't true...

Not really. I don't care. It's like one says, your stuff is junk, and I say, no it isn't. That's all.

 

[mdmd]

For some the Metro UI is fine - for others it is HORRIBLE - for instance if you need to design complex engineering machinery

I agree with you up to a point. We go down different roads. I would never argue about concurrent windows and nesting because that is not what tifkam is about. Metro is not designed for complex engineering applications or SAP. It is simply an enhanced gui that can be used to access Store Apps or pinned desktop applications or shortcuts that run in Win32. a launchpad
My gripe is with the critics who want to hack it off because they don't like it.
That is why I say, Windows 7 or UNIX does not have tifkam, so why not use it?
ok. Windows 8 is better

This thread is about the changes coming either speculation or gossip.
I doubt the OP article is worth anything.

 

[mdmd]

How do I know...? Maybe, because as I've said, they advertise the RT ui approximately 700% more than the explorer.exe ui for Win8?...you can point me toward a Microsoft ad for Win 8 that shows a desktop festooned with shortcuts instead of tiles...

WinRT UI as seen in stores on systems is what Microsoft wants us to see. WinRT is part of explorer.exe. You want to turn off the metro, go to task manager and select explorer or Windows Explorer and end task.
To restart, Ctrl Alt Del > Task Manager > select new task, enter explorer.exe.

I think the old fashioned desktop festooned with shortcuts is what they are trying to get away from.
Anyway, for those that could not find shut down I can see the difficulty.

 

[whs]

This whole Windows 8 issue is not about the new UI or one tile more or less. It is about the direction that M$ is driving the market and the future implicatio on your pocket book.

Hi there.

Markets go where THEY want to go -- businesses can push and strive to nudge (or even co-erce) them into directions they THINK the market OUGHT or WANT it to go but it doesn't happen -- Markets are fickle unpredictable institutions that do what THEY want to do.

Anybody who even slightly thinks OTHERWISE should certainly stay away from any sort of Stock trading or any other sort of trading --and you can see the past is littered with a whole slew of products that logically had a possibly great future but just never made it whereas a load of inferior products did for example the whole VHS vs BETAMAX thing in the days of Videotape, or Minidisc vs Cassette tape or even CD. SACD also hardly got passed the drawing board but fairly poor quality music via Ipods etc ruled the roost.
Blu Ray Discs also are living on borrowed time as Internet downloads at decent video quality become increasingly more available.

If the market doesn't like windows 8..1 or future releases it won't succeed - if the market likes it it will. This isn't really about innovation per se but whether Ms can continue to make money in what is essentially a mature and stable - possibly even a decreasing market.

Cheers
jimbo

Jimbo, your theory works when there is healthy competition in the market. But when 1 company 'owns' 95% of the market, the users really have no realistic choice - except the few sophisticated ones.

 

[whs]

Metro is not designed for complex engineering applications or SAP.

I think it is designed so that they can catch the last moron (and their money) on the planet - but they may end up with morons only. They are easy prey.

 

[mdmd]

Metro is not designed for complex engineering applications or SAP.

I think it is designed so that they can catch the last moron (and their money) on the planet - but they may end up with morons only. They are easy pray.

Funny. But missing the point. How many millions of programs have been sold for the desktop?
Office, Adobe, Games, Utilities, Anti-Virus etc etc... millions of programs sold online or retail for the Win32 desktop. Are consumers and businesses spending billions of dollars on desktop programs as you describe?

Cloud services, skydrive, thousands of online services are all desktop based.
Are desktop users who engage in commerce as you describe?
How much do these engineering programs for the desktop cost? Thousands?
Are people who buy networking tools, servers and cals, video editing, and cad programs as you describe?
Today, how many anti virus (for the desktop) retailers sell lifetime licenses?
It's about what's new. What's next. Not oppression.

Metro is not designed for complex engineering applications or SAP.

I think it is designed so that they can catch the last moron (and their money) on the planet - but they may end up with morons only. They are easy pray.

There are thousands of free metro apps available and you can ignore all of them.

If you wish to characterize people that way,
I would apply similar attributes to those that say 8 is unintuitive.
I grow fatigued in trying to explain how Windows NT6+ works and why.
Have a nice day.

 

[whs]

You are obviously missing my point - which I may have worded wrong. The point is that the new UI is trying to attract people that have no intention (or are not capable) to learn anything about computers. They just want to push buttons like at the McDo's cash register. And the new applications are the same - everything comes out of the can, just put it into the microwave.

This way they can convince even the most sceptical person to buy a system. Why do you think they made all those commercials with little kids demonstrating Windows 8 - like a Playmobil.

And guess what - all those sophisticated people in those companies that use the advanced applications that you are describing don't seem to buy Windows 8.

 

[mart44]

I think it is designed so that they can catch the last moron (and their money) on the planet - but they may end up with morons only. They are easy pray.

Oh Wow! I'm a moron (that should be 'prey' by the way).

 

[whs]

I think it is designed so that they can catch the last moron (and their money) on the planet - but they may end up with morons only. They are easy pray.

Oh Wow! I'm a moron (that should be 'prey' by the way).

Thanks - My English is not too good. Corrected it.