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The Start Menu is Back W8 RP (at least 99.999%) !!!

  1. #11

    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0

    That's why it is called "The Classic" etc...

    Don't blame the Thread Starter.

    Lots of people are still unaware of the Classic Shell application.
    I would say it is the same or better than Microsoft's start menu.
    (because you can change everything!)

    There is a great deal of angst by the majority of forum posters (and everyone) that there is no Start Menu.
    The complaints are everywhere.
    It must be a relief to find something that works!

    I agree. The name of the "Classic Shell" is misleading.

    I believe the SHELL is referring to the ORB in the shape of a shell.
    Plug-ins can be uninstalled as well.
    3rd party applications make an Operating System useful.
    Without 3rd party applications, Microsoft Windows would be very boring.

    This application is in no way a change of "shell" as in "explorer.exe"

    It is customizable in ways unavailable to the familiar Microsoft start menu.
    Last edited by mdmd; 04 Jun 2012 at 23:43.

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  2. #12

    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Do you really like that big black box?
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  3. #13

    I'm using Classic shell, for the moment. There are quite a few alternatives but "Classic is the closest to the legacy menu, if that is what users are looking for.
    Windows 8, for me, is, at the moment, only a small step forward in performance, by my own measurements. But the small step was enough to interest me. I have no use for the Metro, or the contents of the only extra - the "Store", all of which can be obtained from third party sources. But I did want to move on the Windows 8. So I emptied the Metro ("Unpinned" the Start items - not really needed, I was just fussing around). I then applied this method of going direct to the Desktop.. It does seem to be a little random, at times, but I am still pursuing the problem as to why. So I boot up and and, after making my coffee, I have a fully operational desktop to play with, together with the "Classic".

    1 Open a notepad document. Copy the following text in to the document


    Open file and click on ‘save as’., and save to your “username”/Desktop as a “.scf” file (without the quotation marks). Name it anything, like desktop.scf, sounds good!
    To test it, click on the file from any location and it should bring up the desktop

    2. Go back to Start Screen and “search” for the ‘Task Scheduler’. You can also find it in the Control Panel - Administrative Options. Once the app opens, navigate to the ‘Task Scheduler Library’ on the left side navigation pane.
    Right click on an empty area on the middle pane right below the scheduled tasks. On the contextual menu that comes up, choose ‘Create New Task’.
    On the dialog box that appears, fill in the name for the task in the general tab and then click through to the Triggers tab.

    3. On the Triggers tab, click on the ‘New’ button and choose ‘At log on’ from the ‘Begin the task’ drop down menu. Click Ok. Then click on the ‘Actions’ tab.
    In the Actions tab, choose ‘Start a Program’ from the ‘Action’ tab then click on the Browse button for the Program/Script field and choose the .scf file that you created earlier.

    4. Click on ‘Ok’ to exit the dialog box. Restart the computer to check it is working.
    With a Laptop, you can also go to the ‘Conditions’ tab. Here, uncheck the ‘Start the task only if the computer is on AC power’. Click on ‘Ok’ to exit the dialog box.

    Sorry, I would like to give the source for this, but can no longer track it down.
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  4. #14

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    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Hello 97 zillion million folders!
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  5. #15

    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0

    I admit, I am old,
    and old codgers like the familiar.
    Technicians and Data Processors need not have any fun.

    But, the new generation, the facebook and twitter peeps may have alot of fun with the metro shell.

    There will be thousands of apps down the road,
    many will be fun to play with.

    Dare I say FUN!
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  6. #16

    Posts : 740
    Windows 8.1

    I've found that none of these fully replace the Win7 Start Menu, particularly the search function. If I wanted to find something in the control panel but I didn't know exactly what, I'd just start typing relevant words and it would pop up. And the third party application's search doesn't always find run commands, such as dxdiag
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  7. #17

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    Server 2012 / 8.0

    right click bottom left corner of the desktop

    nothing is perfect

    for me... I would edit the menu and delete the Classic Shell search.
    ...and use the Microsoft search...
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  8. #18

    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,374
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10

    Hi guys
    Of course it's not perfect -- but it for a lot of people seems an acceptable alternative to nothing -- especially as a lot of people weren't even aware that this possibility existed.

    Even if they don't use this at least the know that the possibility is there and they look for other alternatives.

    It does seem these days (probably because a lot of the Younger generation used to smart phones etc) never got used to "Netiquette" as we called it then back in the days of the old BBS's where sysops would really ensure "Netiquette" compliance was adhered to.

    What I'm having a go at in this remark is against those posters who just say "I don't Like it" which really doesn't help the discussion in one bit and furthermore rather displays something about their characters.

    Most of the people on these boards do their best to try and help others and this is usually done in their spare time I shudder to think how much time and effort are put in to these forums by the admin team too.

    Windows (and computing in general) are very complex areas that can't be handled via Facebook or "Twitter" type remarks.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with people saying they don't like something or HATE something with a passion (I've done that enough times !!) but these remarks should be placed in relevant threads.

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  9. #19

    Posts : 165
    Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by davehc View Post
    1 Open a notepad document. Copy the following text in to the document
    3. In the Actions tab, choose ‘Start a Program’ from the ‘Action’ tab then click on the Browse button for the Program/Script field and choose the .scf file that you created earlier.
    Very funny: Have you ever tried to move the .scf file to another place ?

    I have explored that the file is not necessary. Only the Actions tab must point to an .scf file - whether it exists or not.
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  10. #20

    OK. I moved it and it still worked - Tks. Interesting though. I tried the fix again, on a new installation, but omitted the Copying of the .scf to the desktop - didn't work.
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