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Metro Whining and Other Windows 8 Madness

  1. #31


    Adelaide
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    That's a good question


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    So why aren't MS giving us all these improvements in SP2 for Win7, instead of making us endure Metro Maonster to get them?
    That's a good question.

    When are we going to see W7 SP2?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    The whole idea of having Metro in any shape or form on a Server is so ludicrously Bonkers you have to wonder what sort of managers are employed that can even THINK of this type of stuff -(Acc****re again !!! --they are usually good at hosing stuff up -- and would easily qualify for an Olympic Gold for the largest screw up in I.T history) .
    Marketing.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 11 Aug 2012 at 20:50. Reason: Quote Added

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  2. #32


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Jimbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ixnay on the Etromay. You wanna get sued and lose your job and your house, or your cats if you have any, or your goldfish if you have any, or your horses if you have any, or....... worse?!?!?!?!?!
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  3. #33


    Parks1, I agree with you and for pretty much the same reasons.

    Regarding ISO mounting, a point: Windows Explorer can open and work with zip archives but I still use a free third-party tool for most of those because it can open a variety of formats. I use a third-party tool to mount ISO images: I have never thought to myself "I wish the OS would do this for me." A lot of tools like that are very easy to install and use: I rarely ever think much about them once I've installed them. They're easy to install, and they work. That's what matters.

    There just isn't enough there to excite me. I have a TechNet subscription, so it's not about $40, but at best Win8 will run only as a VM on my Win7 machine. Win8 doesn't do anything fo rme that I can't do with Win7, and in fact it removes the start menu and Aero interface that I really like about Win7.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Seems to me the problem they have is they don't get product management.

    A product manager has to understand the consumers wants and needs. It is a marketing role essentially, it helps if you also know just enough tech to communicate with the engineers.

    That is what Apple do so well.



    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    So why aren't MS giving us all these improvements in SP2 for Win7, instead of making us endure Metro Maonster to get them?
    That's a good question.

    When are we going to see W7 SP2?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    The whole idea of having Metro in any shape or form on a Server is so ludicrously Bonkers you have to wonder what sort of managers are employed that can even THINK of this type of stuff -(Acc****re again !!! --they are usually good at hosing stuff up -- and would easily qualify for an Olympic Gold for the largest screw up in I.T history) .
    Marketing.
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    Regarding ISO mounting, a point: Windows Explorer can open and work with zip archives but I still use a free third-party tool for most of those because it can open a variety of formats. I use a third-party tool to mount ISO images: I have never thought to myself "I wish the OS would do this for me." A lot of tools like that are very easy to install and use: I rarely ever think much about them once I've installed them. They're easy to install, and they work. That's what matters.
    The only real reason that I notice is because I use Linux distros and all of them have the ability to mount ISO's natively. Also, since I test so much with VM's and I can mount an ISO with the VM software, then having an ISO mounted in a VM is super easy. It's just a pain when I install Windows on a physical machine and then have to mount an iso, that I stop and say "Ooops, gotta go download something to mount this".

    Like you said, getting a 3rd party tool to do it, is simple and no big deal. It will be nice to be able to do it without the 3rd party tool, but this isn't really enough to bring me to Win8.

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    There just isn't enough there to excite me. I have a TechNet subscription, so it's not about $40, but at best Win8 will run only as a VM on my Win7 machine. Win8 doesn't do anything fo rme that I can't do with Win7, and in fact it removes the start menu and Aero interface that I really like about Win7.
    Yes, completely agree. It's just not my preference.
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  6. #36


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by TerryE View Post
    There just isn't enough there to excite me. I have a TechNet subscription, so it's not about $40, but at best Win8 will run only as a VM on my Win7 machine. Win8 doesn't do anything fo rme that I can't do with Win7, and in fact it removes the start menu and Aero interface that I really like about Win7.
    Although I will buy the $39 upgrade and use it over XP to load on a spare machine, when I get one, just so I'm up to speed if SP1 for Win8 accomodates my preferences. In the meantime I hope and pray for SP2 on Win7.
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  7. #37


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    In the meantime I hope and pray for SP2 on Win7.
    Why, are you having significant issues or is there some technology that you are really hoping that Windows 7 gets?
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  8. #38


    Australia
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    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    In the meantime I hope and pray for SP2 on Win7.
    Why, are you having significant issues or is there some technology that you are really hoping that Windows 7 gets?
    No I'm not having issues with Win7; it runs just fine. In fact all the bugs seem to have been ironed out. However, I'm hoping that Win7 will get a SP2 whcih includes the improvents in performance in the Win8 OS, so we can have those benefits without having to pay for Metro development/marketing costs in order to get them.

    Why pay for something you won't use, (meaning Metro, Apps, touch screen, etc,), and lose existing features you want, (meaning direct boot to desktop and legacy start menu), to get the basic OS improvements, which IMHO should be included in a SP2?
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  9. #39


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    New features of Windows 8;

    > faster start up times
    > closes apps automatically
    > can mount .iso files
    > built-in anti-virus
    > lock screen
    > arm support
    > future refs file system
    > cloud computing
    > apps store
    > multiple monitor support
    > copy,rename,delete improvements
    > window scaling
    > easy restore
    > windows to go
    > usb 3.0 support

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  10. #40


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    I'm hoping that Win7 will get a SP2 whcih includes the improvents in performance in the Win8 OS, so we can have those benefits without having to pay for Metro development/marketing costs in order to get them.
    I doubt it.

    They want you to buy the new one.


    New features of Windows 8;

    > faster start up times - only notice with hybrid boot - I never use that since I multiboot.
    > closes apps automatically - not for me - they hang aroung unwanted in taskmgr
    > can mount .iso files - I need a proper iso handler anyway - makes no difference to me
    > built-in anti-virus - better than nothing - but I will install my preferred a/v anyhow.
    > lock screen- damn nuisance
    > arm support
    > future refs file system
    > cloud computing - I already have that - no problem using skydrive, etc on win7
    > apps store - couldn't care less - except maybe on a portable entertainment device
    > multiple monitor support
    > copy,rename,delete improvements
    > window scaling
    > easy restore - not really, again better than nothing, but any one past beginner stage will use their preferred imaging program.
    > windows to go - only for Enterprise customers (allegedly)
    > usb 3.0 support - slightly more convenient than installing the drivers.
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