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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

  1. #51


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there

    Try Libre Office -- for most people almost in every way a good alternative to Ms Office and it's FREE and well supported.
    Another one -- the GIMP --also excellent for a lot of people.

    For Multi-media the Linux version of VLC is perfectly useable -- runs nearly every codec you can think of.

    There's Kaffeine as well -- that also will pick up terrestrial Digital TV too if you have a TV tuner card --I don't though - Internet is fast enough.

    Browsers - Konqueror / Firefox / Opera / Chrome -- all 100% working and plenty of choice -- also play flash OK so video is just fine.

    Ebook Calibre plus the De- DRM remover for e-books works just perfectly in Linux as does things like DVD / video ripping to Mp4 / MKV (Handbrake). Connectivity to mobile phones is also excellent including the latest Samsung S5.

    Plug 'n play works fine -- USB devices are instantly readable (and writeable) without needing special mount / fstab configuration entries -- simply use Dolphin file manager (equivalent to windows explorer).

    Networking is better than Windows - newer distros don't even need manual creation of SAMBA network sharing files -- SMB / CIFS protocols built in straight out of the box.

    OK no stupid things like Silverlite so Netflix / Sky go etc needs to be run from Windows --that's an Ms problem not Linux.

    Games also are an issue --I'm not a gamer so that aspect doesn't bother me.

    I#'m not saying switch -- but all i'm trying to point out is that there are a HUGE number of perfectly stable applications that run in Linux and aren't going away any time soon. You might have to hunt around a bit - but it's no worse than looking in the Google play store for an Android app and deciding which one to use -- and Google apps camn be created by every man and his dog so no long term commitment there.

    Like all things there's no "One size fits all". - Just be aware that useable alternatives DO exist in a huge number of cases.

    Cheers

    jimbo

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    Both have their strengths & weaknesses, glad I have one of each
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  3. #53


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Believe me when I say, I would love to see Linux more prevalent the society as a whole.
    I would love to see it on more devices, competition is what advances society, without it, we would still have Windows 95 most likely

    I wish things like LiberOffice and Open Office were more reliable with MS Office.
    But they aren't, that is a fact, not opinion. It's been proven time and again, documents get corrupted when edited or simply opened between them. This isn't a good alternative for the work place. And the fact they just are not as powerful as Office.
    They both still have a very long way to go.
    Honestly, I wish that wasn't true.

    I would love to see Linux on more devices, like tablets, etc. Take a big huge bite out of Android to put Google in their place.
    You would see a major change there.

    But let be honest, the Linux community are far too fragmented, to elitist and too snarky about people trying to transfer over or just learn about Linux coming from Windows. i have far too many times been a victim of LiNazi attacks simply for mention Microsoft.
    Their heads explode.

    I still delve into and take a look at Linux from time to time and try to learn a bit, but I don't go to the Linux sites and ask questions any longer. Not worth my time, when I ask a question about "hey I do X in Windows, how can I do it in Linux?" and the rampage starts.

    Change the community and maybe Linux will get somewhere.

    Change the Dev Support problems with the smaller third party software vendors to support their software better (which they can't cause it is all based off advertisement and donations). Get some of the bigger names to get better relationship with MS for better cross platform compatibility in the work place.

    Linux community has a long way to go before they become anywhere close to mainstream.
    Their Fragmentation and support community are atrocious.

    I will say, no, it is not everyone that is a LiNazi, but there are far too many still, it damages the brand.

    Get unified, get professional, get backing, get support and linux might stand a chance.
    till then, it's still a fringe system that is only good for back-end support or Grandma Jones who's grandson talked her into using it, but can only come and work on it to fix things every 3 weekend when they aren't busy.

    Again,, I want to see Linux more, would love to see the competition and the possibilities of a very powerful Linux Environment are truly endless.

    At this time, we can only wish.
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  4. #54


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Believe me when I say, I would love to see Linux more prevalent the society as a whole.
    I would love to see it on more devices, competition is what advances society, without it, we would still have Windows 95 most likely

    I wish things like LiberOffice and Open Office were more reliable with MS Office.
    But they aren't, that is a fact, not opinion. It's been proven time and again, documents get corrupted when edited or simply opened between them. This isn't a good alternative for the work place. And the fact they just are not as powerful as Office.
    They both still have a very long way to go.
    Honestly, I wish that wasn't true.

    I would love to see Linux on more devices, like tablets, etc. Take a big huge bite out of Android to put Google in their place.
    You would see a major change there.

    But let be honest, the Linux community are far too fragmented, to elitist and too snarky about people trying to transfer over or just learn about Linux coming from Windows. i have far too many times been a victim of LiNazi attacks simply for mention Microsoft.
    Their heads explode.

    I still delve into and take a look at Linux from time to time and try to learn a bit, but I don't go to the Linux sites and ask questions any longer. Not worth my time, when I ask a question about "hey I do X in Windows, how can I do it in Linux?" and the rampage starts.

    Change the community and maybe Linux will get somewhere.

    Change the Dev Support problems with the smaller third party software vendors to support their software better (which they can't cause it is all based off advertisement and donations). Get some of the bigger names to get better relationship with MS for better cross platform compatibility in the work place.

    Linux community has a long way to go before they become anywhere close to mainstream.
    Their Fragmentation and support community are atrocious.

    I will say, no, it is not everyone that is a LiNazi, but there are far too many still, it damages the brand.

    Get unified, get professional, get backing, get support and linux might stand a chance.
    till then, it's still a fringe system that is only good for back-end support or Grandma Jones who's grandson talked her into using it, but can only come and work on it to fix things every 3 weekend when they aren't busy.

    Again,, I want to see Linux more, would love to see the competition and the possibilities of a very powerful Linux Environment are truly endless.

    At this time, we can only wish.
    That would also mean it would have to be commercial, Most serious applications too and with that it would be under different influences and loose the allure it has now. Soon it would be just another Windows or whatever. Today's weakness are also it's strength because it relies on much larger crowd of enthusiastic developers and innovators. It just wouldn't be the same any more. Being relatively open, PC (other than Mac) became what it is now and prevented than superior Macintosh to be leader in shear size of installed base. Who knows what position Atari TOS that I preferred at that time would have now if it was kept open and as accessible as MS Dos and windows. Let's not forget Amiga and OS/2, they were at one time quite promising OSs but got steamrolled anyway by shear number of applications for M$ OS. As an OS and indeed whole computer for it are just slaves to tools to use them, only the ones with most usable tools can win and even survive. I have very small number of payed programs but couple hundred relatively small free programs doing as little number of things at the time but do them well or at least to my satisfaction, but, those serious, payed (some pretty expensive ) ones are make or brake for me sticking to windows because there's nary an alternative to them.
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  5. #55


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    Win 8.1 Pro


    And that is my point.

    I mean you have Flavors like RedHat that come with Paid Support

    But read the con's of each of these and that will tell you a very large story of why Linux has so many issues with going mainstream.

    DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.

    There can be Unity there,, look at Android, it's a free OS with a huge following due to Googles backing.
    Otherwise, it would be in the same boat as the rest of Linux.
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  6. #56


    Posts : 13
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    What does Heartbleed have to do with type of OS ?
    Now that you mention it, I realize that Hεαrtblεεd is at the server switch "level" and is unrelated to the user OS.
    Now excuse me, I must get back to changing all my passwords, and I have no idea of how many there are, much less where they are, or even, in some cases, what they are. It's giving me heartburn.

    If this thread does not tolerate mention of Windows vulnerabilities, then I apologize for violating the universally understood, unwritten code.
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  7. #57


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    I thought this was
    Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux
    Not 5 for Linux, Oh Well, Here are 12 reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

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  8. #58


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Perhaps you've been going to the wrong places for Linux help --most people seem to be quite helpful - however if you log on to a site say dealing with building obscure Linux kernels - then people don't expect questions like - how do I compile and install it.

    I've posted above 5 stable distros which will be around for a long time - and for a lot of people Libre Office will work -- although Ms Office is still an absolute winner in every way.

    anyway try this site

    LinuxQuestions.org it's friendly enough.

    Windows of course will remain on the vast majority of desktops unless a) ms persists with subscription software models, b) ms forces everyone to use the Cloud as much as possible and c) ms continues trying to make people think their desktops and workstations are perfectly suited to running a Mobile phone type of OS.

    Learning Linux in any case is a good idea and if you are forced to switch for whatever reason you will have enough knowledge to do it properly.

    There are good arguments though for running BOTH systems.

    @mdmd -- Netflix won't run on Linux because of the STUPID Ms Silverlite DRM content protection stream in the media -- if you have to have DRM there are a load of better ways to introduce it -- even the Movie industry itself (not a great believer in freedom of content access) says SILVERLITE is a horrible cludgy system. Same reasoning applies to SKY GO content as well.

    There's nothing inherently problematical about media streaming in Linux -- it's just the DINOSAURIAL DRM system kludged up and copyrighted by Ms (SILVERLITE) that prevents things like Netflix from running on Linux.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9. #59


    Linux software holds it's own, but it's probably not the desktop software that most hobbyists are used to. It's software like Apache, Tomcat, Sendmail, Bind, OpenLDAP, MSSQL, MongoDB, that are all fantastic packages, industry standards, etc.

    At the desktop level, ubiquitous standards like MS Office rule the roost. And the problem is more than these apps (MS Office), don't actually adhere to open standards to allow more compatibility. In fact, in many cases I think they go out of their way to ensure non-compatibility, but that is neither here nor there.

    As Jimbo said, there are good arguments for both systems. I couldn't even fathom my professional life without Linux servers. But I also have Windows servers, and continue to use Windows desktops at work and couldn't image being strapped to a Linux box for those tasks. And I even use a Mac for basic computer tasks at home these days, as it's incredibly fast in and out of sleep, with great performance and great battery life. It's almost a best of both worlds giving me a very nice GUI, as well as the underpinnings of a Linux/Unix system once I hit the command line.
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  10. #60


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    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Yanno, while I prefer windows, I am happy for the fact that Linux exists. Happy, because if windows ever goes completely crazy, and, say, goes all metro, or cloud only, or some other unimaginable nonsense, there'll likely be a flavor of linux that I can stand rather than windows.
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