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Five reasons I'd rather run Windows 8 than Linux

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    Most of computers, desktop and laptop, made last few years have eSATA too and that can make them even faster, just as fast as any internal drives.

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  2. #132


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Here you can comparfe boot times. It's in virtual (for recording purposes) but it is an apples to apples comparison. The boot starts when the OS logo appears. The rest is VMNware setup time.

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  3. #133


    Here's my Windows 8.1.1 in VMware Player:



    The actual boot time to desktop of 20 seconds for W8 is not too bad. The login requirement also adds about five seconds to the boot time...
    Last edited by Cr00zng; 30 Apr 2014 at 11:28. Reason: Miscalculated boot time...
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  4. #134


    Just wandering, did somebody try running some performance test like Cinebench on a computer running W8 or 8.1 from a VM on Linux and on native 8.1. ? With the same amount of memory of course.
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  5. #135


    In general, video tests don't run in VMware hosts; the benchmarks require direct access to the video card.

    I did run the AS SSD benchmark in VMware on Windows 8.1:

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    The system runs on an older OCZ SATA 3 SSD drive using the StarTech removable HD enclosure; the enclosure has a USB 3.0 port for portability:

    Newegg.com - StarTech.com Removable 2.5" SATA Hard Drive Enclosure and Backup System for 3.5/5.25" Bay
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  6. #136


    That's really good result, about same as my Kingston V300 connected directly to SATA3. So it looks like file transfer and disk speed do not suffer at all running from VM.
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  7. #137


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    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Just wandering, did somebody try running some performance test like Cinebench on a computer running W8 or 8.1 from a VM on Linux and on native 8.1. ? With the same amount of memory of course.
    Well, the easiest numbers to compare are the events 100 and 200. Those are right there in event viewer. No need for an extra tool.

    I run all my virtual VMware systems from an external disk. So there is an extra challenge.
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  8. #138


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    That's really good result, about same as my Kingston V300 connected directly to SATA3. So it looks like file transfer and disk speed do not suffer at all running from VM.
    I wouldn't say that....

    There's about 20% performance drop with VMware when compared to the native SSD benchmark, under Windows 7:

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    And it gets worse, when the portable drive is connected to USB 3.0 interface for a Windows box:

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    It's still pretty good speed for a portable drive, but note the access time increase.

    Connect the same portable drive to a USB 3.0 port on a Mac Book Pro (MBP), and the transfer rates are closer to the rates of the VMware benchmarks. Since MBP components are Intel hardware, I am wondering what MS is doing with the drivers?
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  9. #139


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there

    all good but in the real world if your VM's are on an SSD a typical user wouldn't actually notice much difference - if any -- so long as your VM had proper hardware graphic acceleration enabled and working and 3-D graphic set enabled. - Jittery mouse actions, video "shadow trails" and any lag on keyboard input are what bothers users FAR MORE than how quick the system boots -- some of our work network systems take AGES to get logged on to -- I go and grab a coffee -- but once it's up and running performance is usually acceptable for normal type tasks.

    Just try for example on W7 VM playing Spider Solitaire on a VM when the 3-D and graphic hardware acceleration is NOT enabled or doesn't work properly -- even if your VM is on a fast machine and resides on an SSD. The sheer bad performance of the game will show you there's a lot more to getting VM's to perform correctly than a base I/O measurement of an SSD.

    Try these on W8.1 VM as well -- I can give you a private dropbox link to get these old games working on W8.1 -- they are EXCELLENT for this type of testing BTW !!!! --. Due to Forum rules I can't publish a direct open public link.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  10. #140


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    These are the boot times of 8.1 from an external SSD on eSata. All numbers in Milliseconds as shown in Event Viewer - Event 100. Overall time is 32 seconds and then the breakdown.

    BootTime 32188
    MainPathBootTime 11288
    BootKernelInitTime 16
    BootDriverInitTime 265
    BootDevicesInitTime 3956
    BootSmssInitTime 1755
    BootCriticalServicesInitTime 562
    BootUserProfileProcessingTime 623
    BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 219
    BootExplorerInitTime 1482
    BootNumStartupApps 2
    BootPostBootTime 20900
    OSLoaderDuration 772
    BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 16
    BootPNPInitDuration 4210
    OtherKernelInitDuration 200
    SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 4397
    SystemPNPInitDuration 199
    SessionInitStartTimeMS 4610
    Session0InitDuration 444
    Session1InitDuration 72
    SessionInitOtherDuration 1238
    WinLogonStartTimeMS 6365
    OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 2597
    UserLogonWaitDuration 302
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