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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemix View Post
    ...complicated? Yes.
    Is Pin to Start complicated?

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    Hey Microsoft, let's get "Refresh", "Reset" fixed.
    No sense in having major features, if they don't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemix View Post
    @ mdmd

    More than half of the icons you have there are not Metro UI apps and belong to the desktop which makes no difference from running the program in either Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 except for the fact that you have to switch over to Start Menu to access the program icon and switch back to the desktop when the program has loaded...complicated? Yes.
    No. When one opens a Win32 legacy desktop program via a tile on the Start Screen it automatically shifts to the desktop portal app and opens, even if the desktop has not been opened yet or one closes it prior.

    @ alphanumeric

    Then by all means Windows 8.1 is just Windows 7 in a different shell with more features and a slight learning curve, which goes to say Windows 8.1 is just as good as Windows 7 but better then Windows 7 it's certainly not.
    8/8.1 are far, far better IMO. The Real Quality Boot Time of 8 Verses 7
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    Biggest problem is that too many folks put an equal sign between UI and OS and that is simply not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemix View Post
    @ mdmd

    More than half of the icons you have there are not Metro UI apps and belong to the desktop which makes no difference from running the program in either Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 except for the fact that you have to switch over to Start Menu to access the program icon and switch back to the desktop when the program has loaded...complicated? Yes.

    @ alphanumeric

    Having touch enabled hardware is not the only thing Windows 8.1 can take advantage of, I just happen emphasize on the more important features Windows 8.1 has to offer for hardware built for the OS and I would have to say multi-monitor solutions is one of them alongside smaller screens with high resolutions (DPI scaling for tablets).

    Thus I can see where you're coming from having much success with Windows 8.1 and having two or more monitors but then even solely speaking on the average consumer, multi-monitor setups are still rarity especially with the slower PC sales these days and ever pacing economy decline plus the fact that it's not a necessity to have more than one monitor for a PC setup.

    As a conclusion like I've always said unless you have specific hardware setups tailored for Windows 8.1, just a enthusiasts or can get Windows 8.1 for significantly cheaper than Windows 7 (for new OS upgrades from XP/Vista) and all the drivers for your hardware is available for Windows 8.1 (not worth going through the trouble of waiting for drivers to come out).

    Then by all means Windows 8.1 is just Windows 7 in a different shell with more features and a slight learning curve, which goes to say Windows 8.1 is just as good as Windows 7 but better then Windows 7 it's certainly not.


    Hi there
    All versions of Windows are basically a GUI with a different shell - enc first windows release !! 1.01 (in a VM of course).

    Once the underlying DOS was eliminated ( I think in Windows 98) then the kernel has remained essentially unaltered ever since then apart from the addition of 64 bit processing and better security and new hardware drivers. I'm sure if one were to "reverse" engineer parts of the windows kernel it would probably contain quite a lot of code from Windows NT.

    Cheers
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    @ Jimbo; Windows 9X had DOS, Windows 98 had MSDOS 7.1 I believe. ME had 8.0? The 9x family killed the requirement to install DOS first but it was still there in one form or another. It was pretty well eliminated with Windows NT and the NT kernel and NTFS file system. There is a command shell there but its not a true DOS environment. Some people still call it DOS though. This post may sound like I'm nit picking but that was not my intention.
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    I note that the article says:

    "Surely, Microsoft has fulfilled its promise, but did it in its own way: pressing the left button now takes the user to the start Metro screen. And to open the familiar “Start” menu you have to make a right click on it."

    I never upgraded, so I'm still using 8.0; but I always thought that, in 8.1 (like 8.0), the old Start Menu isn't available at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Drop View Post
    I note that the article says:

    "Surely, Microsoft has fulfilled its promise, but did it in its own way: pressing the left button now takes the user to the start Metro screen. And to open the familiar “Start” menu you have to make a right click on it."

    I never upgraded, so I'm still using 8.0; but I always thought that, in 8.1 (like 8.0), the old Start Menu isn't available at all.
    Yes you are correct, it doesn't do what he says. You get a menu with some of the options found in control panel. Programs and features, Power options, Device Manager, Disk Management, etc. It doesn't expand out or include stuff like all programs.
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    Surely, Microsoft has fulfilled its promise, but did it in its own way: pressing the left button now takes the user to the start Metro screen. And to open the familiar “Start” menu you have to make a right click on it.
    I think they might have been referring to right click on the start screen which takes one to the Windows 8 start menu, whether or not one believes it is a menu, whatever.

    edit: Or at least it used to (in 8) expose the All Apps button.
    Now, ok, not so, ... down arrow now.

    Oops, had to re-read, I was mistaken. It was all about 8.1 / 8.2, sorry about that.

    I keep switching between 8.1 and server, which uses the 8.0 model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Surely, Microsoft has fulfilled its promise, but did it in its own way: pressing the left button now takes the user to the start Metro screen. And to open the familiar “Start” menu you have to make a right click on it.
    I think they might have been referring to right click on the start screen which takes one to the Windows 8 start menu, whether or not one believes it is a menu, whatever.

    edit: Or at least it used to (in 8) expose the All Apps button.
    Now, ok, not so, ... down arrow now.

    Oops, had to re-read, I was mistaken. It was all about 8.1 / 8.2, sorry about that.

    I keep switching between 8.1 and server, which uses the 8.0 model.
    I took it as referring to the menu shown here, Power User Tasks Menu - Open in Windows 8
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