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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gahbmwm5 View Post
    Superfly,

    LOL.............beautiful m8! I think now that I will stay with Win 8 Pro w/ Media Centre (until the final comes out) as I just closed the 8.1 Preview download page.
    Good on you bud, had preview in a dual boot but didn't bother installing any apps.. as any eval. then upgraded to latest leaked pre-RTM for testing.

    BTW there's talk that RTM will be signed off in the next few days... take it as rumour though
    Yes have also heard this rumour...lol But I think my days of testing a beta OS are finished as I now only have one laptop to work with...I'll go download the Google Chrome beta......this will at 'least take the edge off!'..............lol

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  2. #82


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    umm guys, no one has actually answered my two questions really,

    Will the upgrade by MUCH smaller for the tablets?

    and if not- if you cannot upgrade- do you have to ?
    I don't understand the 20GB requirement for 8.1 unless it is a clean install. An upgrade will replace the Windows 8 files with the 8.1 files so it should be about the same size as what is on the system now when it is done. Security and hotfix updates will continue for 2 years after 8.1 GA so no hurry to update. This is the same policy that exists for all Windows SP updates.

    Jim
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    so are you telling me that the 20gigs that are needed might not be needed at all and the upgrade can go on a 17gig tablet HD?
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  4. #84


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    @ Superfly DISM is part of ADK right? I've got that installed on my laptop, it was needed for MSDaRT.
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  5. #85


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    so are you telling me that the 20gigs that are needed might not be needed at all and the upgrade can go on a 17gig tablet HD?
    If the tablet has Windows 8 already installed that is why you only have a small portion free. Windows 8.1 will REPLACE Windows 8 and you should have about the same free space when done.

    Jim
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    Thank you- I hope so
    I have 5 clients who purchased the surface pro on my recommendation and want the ability to upgrade to 8.1, they did not want to spend an extra $100 for the tablet to make it 128gigs because they plan on only using Office 2013 and email and will put all their documents and or pictures on a flash drive or put them onto an external HD. Also the service contract was much higher on the 128 gigs.

    I will use my desktop PC as a test anyway, I will mark what my HD is prior to upgrading it to 8.1 and see what it does.
    I also have a loaned Surface Pro from Microsoft and I will put it on that one to see how much it takes since it is a 64 gig one, since i do not have to give it back until November and they told me I could use it to upgrade.
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  7. #87


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    @ Superfly DISM is part of ADK right? I've got that installed on my laptop, it was needed for MSDaRT.
    Yes..Sorry for the late reply.. believe it or not had a bit of a cadenza

    Edit:
    cadenza = PC froze... hard restart,,, try fixMBR... then prompt for password...had a "WTH is the password moment " (I've being using fingerprint for who knows how long).. eventually booted dual .... then fixed MBR.
    Last edited by Superfly; 22 Aug 2013 at 16:29.
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  8. #88


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    so are you telling me that the 20gigs that are needed might not be needed at all and the upgrade can go on a 17gig tablet HD?
    If the tablet has Windows 8 already installed that is why you only have a small portion free. Windows 8.1 will REPLACE Windows 8 and you should have about the same free space when done.

    Jim
    It may need a decent temp file space and you can get upgrade errors. Yes it might fail if the partition is too small.

    You can try the procedure on your own to see how it goes.
    You need to free up some space on too small disks before beginning, if disk is too full. That's why the 20GB is recommended.

    For a clean install it wouldn't be a problem not even for 12 - 15 GB disks but upgrading is another thing: you basically run on your current Windows that has more than 10GB just in it's important locations and the upgrade version gets downloaded an extracted when the old files are still in use. Current (older) system files in use cannot be replaced live (only after a reboot or two, and even then: sometimes Windows.old folder keeps using some decent space).

    Important:
    After the upgrade the disk will have (almost) the same used space as before BUT during the process you will need extra (free) space.
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    so why would they give you a 64gig hd and take away 20gigs of space from it to begin with? maybe they should have given us a 80gig hd, for the surface pro, at least for the 20gigs it takes away for the recovery and OS, you would be back to 64gigs give or take.
    That would have been a bit more reasonable, especially for what it costs.

    If it cost in the $400 range it is not that bad, but for what it costs it should have been a bigger HD to accommodate the blunder Microsoft did in Windows 8. And what is worse if one does not have enough space to put on the 8.1, because Microsoft is making this mandatory, you are stuck with a dead $800 Surface Pro like the one my other client has from Samsung where he did not put anything on it yet, it was bundled with Office and he has 11 gigs left,,,, duh!
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  10. #90


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    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    so why would they give you a 64gig hd and take away 20gigs of space from it to begin with? maybe they should have given us a 80gig hd, for the surface pro, at least for the 20gigs it takes away for the recovery and OS, you would be back to 64gigs give or take.
    That would have been a bit more reasonable, especially for what it costs.

    If it cost in the $400 range it is not that bad, but for what it costs it should have been a bigger HD to accommodate the blunder Microsoft did in Windows 8. And what is worse if one does not have enough space to put on the 8.1, because Microsoft is making this mandatory, you are stuck with a dead $800 Surface Pro like the one my other client has from Samsung where he did not put anything on it yet, it was bundled with Office and he has 11 gigs left,,,, duh!
    That's something I have never understood? At one time flash storage was expensive and it was a cost consideration. With the prices of SSD drives what they are now, I just don't get why they put out these devices with such limited storage built in?
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