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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    None of those things is even close to what you are proposing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodintentions View Post
    I'm pretty sure I'm safe from the mind-control microwaves that are being aimed at me right now.
    What a witty retort.
    I still fail to see your logic. Somehow, you've translated a bunch of choices into Stalinist dictatorship.

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  2. #32


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Please don't give me the BS that it's because of 8. It was shrinking long before 8 was introduced.
    You won't catch flu just by standing in the freezing rain.

    But, if you have flu, it is not good idea to stand in the freezing rain.

    If they want my advice on how to proceed from here, they will have to pay me for it.
    Ok, let me get this straight. You're saying that because PC sales were nose diving, the best thing MS could have done was come out with another windows 7 OS?

    You know why the French lost the war so quickly? They stuck to WW1 strategy while the Germans invented new ones.

    I'm greatly puzzled by this notion that since the desktop was dying in the market they should have added another desktop and somehow magically people will start buying the desktop in great numbers again.

    And I still don't get this notion that the desktop is dead. I use my desktop every day. It's still there. No one has come and take my desktop away yet. Why is it that almost every single one of your posts sound like someone is holding a gun to your head and force you to use the metro interface and that your dog will die if you dare to open up a desktop app?
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    No, I didn't say that.
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  4. #34


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    ...
    The OS continues to be native. One can continue to use a local account. One has the option to turn off Bing search. One can uninstall all of the store apps. One does not have to participate in CEP. One does not need to use SkyDrive. One can turn off any option they deem intrusive. Is this not so?
    I agree, just some clarifications...

    When you turn off Bing search, it does stop the system displaying internet links in the search results. That sounds great, but... Both the search terms and search results (not actual files) are submitted to MS by the system. In another word, MS will continue tracking, similarly to tracking that is nowadays all over the browsers. MS should clarify this in the search and apps configuration.

    In the current version of smart search, or Bing search, it is only implemented for the search charm. The other searches, explorer, programs, etc., do not contact MS.

    The easiest way stopping Bing search to track the user searches is, well, don't use the search charm. On the desktop, that's pretty easy to do, but may not be so on tablets or smartphones. The only other way I could stop it is to block the DNS name and/or IP address of the destination server. When the destination is blocked by the firewall policy, this is the error message the system displays, even if the internet access is just fine:

    Click image for larger version

    Personally, when I don't have those choices, I'll be the first one to go elsewhere.
    And I am with you....
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  5. #35


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Bookmark your post and come back to it in a few years. You won't need to edit and twist my post #19 , you will probably understand it then.
    Isn't the forum for "edit and twist" other people's post? Even if I didn't do it in this case, just used partial quote...

    I guess it depends on your definition of "few years", but... I have serious doubt that MS will have everything you have stated in post #19...
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    God, I just love reading this stuff. . .The best entertainment a person can have short of a good round of Golf (had an excellent round this morning). . .
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  7. #37


    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    God, I just love reading this stuff. . .The best entertainment a person can have short of a good round of Golf (had an excellent round this morning). . .
    Like Phil yesterday?
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  8. #38


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cr00zng View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    God, I just love reading this stuff. . .The best entertainment a person can have short of a good round of Golf (had an excellent round this morning). . .
    Like Phil yesterday?
    I would love to be able to do as Phil did, one of the best come from behind stories that even a movie maker could fabricate. . .
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  9. #39


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    No, I didn't say that.
    No, you did not literally say that in one post. For the last 3 months or so (at least), you along with several others have been (1) blaming the PC sales fall to windows 8, (2) windows 8 should have looked and felt like windows 7, (3) sounding and implying that there is no desktop environment anymore and you people have been forced to use metro UI and metro apps, and (4) PC sales will pick up again if only they kill off metro and make windows 8 exactly like windows 7 again.

    Explain why mac sales have been taking a hit as well if windows 8 was the cause of the slumping sales. Explain how this logic that since the desktop was suffering slumping sales that the solution is to continue to come out with the same thing. Explain what's preventing you from taking 1 minute out of your precious time to install classic shell. Explain what's preventing you from spending 20 seconds of your precious time to tweak the registry to kill off the metro UI forever. Explain how big brother MS is forcing you to use touch.

    I just spent the last 8 hours working on my desktop computer and not once did I go into metro. If MS was really trying to force me to work in metro environment, you'd think that I'd see it at least once in the last 8 hours.

    And to go back to your freezing rain and flu example. PC sales were already taking a nose dive long before windows 8 came out. So, in this case you were already having a flu and standing in freezing rain. The best course of action in such a situation is to change strategy and try to get out of the rain, not continue to stand in the rain. Your analogy was flawed. MS recognized that the paradigm shift is affecting the sales, so they took a new strategy. At worst, it did not result in what they had hoped. But what was the alternative? Continue on with the proven failed strategy?

    Just give it a rest already. We get it that you must have the start menu. Classic shell and any number of other free start menu will do the trick. You hate the metro UI, and there's a way to kill it off forever. I swear to you, after you've done these two things, it's pretty much an improved version of windows 7.

    But enough with this windows-8-is-the-cause-of-all-evil stuff.

    Added by edit.

    No offense ever intended.
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    You can post up your own opinions/thoughts/whatever. You are free to do so . This is a forum. I don't feel disposed to tell you to stop doing that.

    However, when you misrepresent what I have posted, I will correct it.

    That is not what I have been saying.
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