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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post

    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".

    Hi there
    Agreed.

    For instance if you install a large application like Visual Studio 2012 (full version) or the CS6 Adobe suite where every .EXE file creates a tile which can be anywhere on the start screen how does the poor user know WHICH are the important ones and which are the "rubbish" tiles that can sensibly be deleted - not only that you won't necessarily KNOW if the tiles that appear are part of the application you are installing.

    It is DEFINITELY NOT A TRIVIAL TASK to sort out this dogs dinner of a mess and if coke robot thinks it is and is within the competence of "typical users" - and a typical user doesn't have to be an IT Guru to use Adobe CS6 for example - he must be sniffing too much of the white powdery stuff.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    double ditto on that.

    In a big corporation the IT guy is going to tweak all of that for the user and just make a custom deployment image. Even then though you're likely to end up with a different images for different departments etc. It's still going to be a major headache for some poor sole. And even then there will still be training for the end user on what's what and how to use the hot corners etc. If you don't all your PC's will be on 24/7 as no one will be able to figure out how to turn them off from Windows.
    No you have to be an "IT guru" to figure that one out. Somehow context was obviously lost after someone posted about something in the corporate setting and I posted that it's not that difficult to create an image without apps....

    If the average user is installing the WHOLE Adobe CS6 suite, they're not a typical user AT ALL. If one were to be doing that, I'd definitely imagine they'd know what is rubbish and what isn't. Usually, things like Adobe Bridge and InDesign kind of have more prevalence than an html help file.

    Not a lot of coke is needed to figure that one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post

    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".
    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    How I not be getting it? There is literally nothing to comprehend other than an IT admin's ability of understanding what to do in a corporate setting with Windows 8.
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    Are you asking Cokie to think ?

    You would have more luck asking a boulder to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post

    Problem is, not all users are as genius as you are when it comes to doing this kind of stuff. I know it doesn't take a genius to do that. But consider all the frustrations users have to undergo before eventually figuring that out. It all boils down to the most important concept when it comes to computers.... "user-friendly".
    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Are you asking Cokie to think ?

    You would have more luck asking a boulder to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    Hi there
    That's the trouble with this dogs dinner of an OS UI -- people are always told to think OUTSIDE the GODDxxn-d Box -- however this is definitely a case where you need to think INSIDE the wretched box or certainly keep it tightly closed.

    People just want to be able to install something and then USE IT without having to go through all sorts of rings to find and remove redundant tiles.

    Somehow I think some PARTICULAR people on this thread probably actually have NEVER REALLY USED a computer ("The Robot" for instance -- We've often asked you for suggestions since you seem to imply it's easy and anybody can organise the tiles properly -- but your answers seem to be mechanical responses irrespective of the questions asked -- well I suppose ROBOT is in the name somewhere so perhaps the responses are appropriate).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Are you asking Cokie to think ?

    You would have more luck asking a boulder to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post

    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    Hi there
    That's the trouble with this dogs dinner of an OS UI -- people are always told to think OUTSIDE the GODDxxn-d Box -- however this is definitely a case where you need to think INSIDE the wretched box or certainly keep it tightly closed.

    People just want to be able to install something and then USE IT without having to go through all sorts of rings to find and remove redundant tiles.

    Somehow I think some PARTICULAR people on this thread probably actually have NEVER REALLY USED a computer ("The Robot" for instance -- We've often asked you for suggestions since you seem to imply it's easy and anybody can organise the tiles properly -- but your answers seem to be mechanical responses irrespective of the questions asked -- well I suppose ROBOT is in the name somewhere so perhaps the responses are appropriate).

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Wow, I guess it's so bloody obtuse and difficult to right click on a tile you KNOW you don't need that you obviously need SOMEONE else to figure out because honestly, I don't believe you even use Windows 8 to begin with. You're insinuating I'VE never used a computer? Preposterous. Your responses are purely complaints about the same thing over and over and over and over again, some people with intelligence will actually try to find a solution themselves or seek out a good one. You on the other hand prefer not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Are you asking Cokie to think ?

    You would have more luck asking a boulder to fly.


    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    Excuse me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    I would hope at least system admins are genius enough to figure that one out...
    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    How I not be getting it? There is literally nothing to comprehend other than an IT admin's ability of understanding what to do in a corporate setting with Windows 8.
    You are thinking about corporate environment coke. And I don't think Windows 8 will even reach that level of getting into any big businesses. We are talking about typical home users. Users NOT like us.
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    You don't need to be excused.

    Your posts have enormous entertainment value.

    That is good thing. Keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fourthofjuly View Post

    You just don't get it coke. Think outside the box.
    How I not be getting it? There is literally nothing to comprehend other than an IT admin's ability of understanding what to do in a corporate setting with Windows 8.
    You are thinking about corporate environment coke. And I don't think Windows 8 will even reach that level of getting into any big businesses. We are talking about typical home users. Users NOT like us.
    Yeah, that's exactly why I said to remove the apps and whatnot to create a custom install image for an enterprise setting. Windows 8 may not get anywhere in the enterprise as of now, but in the further future, possibly yes.

    But talking about typical users, if you don't like the apps, just uninstall them. Not that difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    You don't need to be excused.

    Your posts have enormous entertainment value.

    That is good thing. Keep it up.
    And I'm the one doing coke?..... What are you talking about?
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