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  1. #71


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I'm all for public safety and health, but some of these rules and regulations are simply common sense that should be left to the people themselves
    Find me employer that goes by common sense if he can save a buck. I think the laws should be even stricter.
    We may as live under Bolshevik rule then. I feel that's how bad it's getting here.

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  2. #72


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    W8.1, W7


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I'm all for public safety and health, but some of these rules and regulations are simply common sense that should be left to the people themselves
    Find me employer that goes by common sense if he can save a buck. I think the laws should be even stricter.
    We may as live under Bolshevik rule then. I feel that's how bad it's getting here.
    Bolshevik? Take a look at countries with no \ too few rules. Example, ship breakers.


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    btw, the only Bolshevik matter I see here is MS working hard to impose it's W8 phone\toy OS interface on all aspects of computing. Maybe they have a 5 year plan ?
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  3. #73


    Quote Originally Posted by 4wd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Find me employer that goes by common sense if he can save a buck. I think the laws should be even stricter.
    We may as live under Bolshevik rule then. I feel that's how bad it's getting here.
    Bolshevik? Take a look at countries with no \ too few rules. Example, ship breakers.


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    btw, the only Bolshevik matter I see here is MS working hard to impose it's W8 phone\toy OS interface on all aspects of computing. Maybe they have a 5 year plan ?
    Thanks for the Wiki link. I'm reminded of what learned years ago in High School World History.

    In rebuttal to your statement and picture; Obviously they lack the proper education and/or proper resources. Therefore, there really only needs to be a few rules:

    1. Get a proper education.
    2. Obtain and use the proper resources to create.
    3. Elect government officials that know what it means to stay out of private human affairs.

    With regards to MS's business plan; Make a profit with a rather ingenious OS to usher us into the new age of modern computing. The marriage of the Modern/Metro touch-centric UI and the Internet while maintaining the desktop. At least for now.
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  4. #74


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I'm all for public safety and health, but some of these rules and regulations are simply common sense that should be left to the people themselves
    Find me employer that goes by common sense if he can save a buck. I think the laws should be even stricter.
    We may as live under Bolshevik rule then. I feel that's how bad it's getting here.
    They had pretty strict rules for the workplace there. I worked in the Eastern European countries (East Germany, Czechoslovakia. Poland, Roumania and Hungary) during the 60s. My office was in Vienna, Austria but I went to these countries all the time. The conditions at the workplace there were not bad. In one country (forget which one), they even had the German lumen law - it says that there must be so much natural lumen (light) at a workplace. That practically requires that every office has a window. Nobody in Germany would work in those dark cubicals that are common in the US. We only raise chicken and porc in such places.
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  5. #75


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Find me employer that goes by common sense if he can save a buck. I think the laws should be even stricter.
    We may as live under Bolshevik rule then. I feel that's how bad it's getting here.
    They had pretty strict rules for the workplace there. I worked in the Eastern European countries (East Germany, Czechoslovakia. Poland, Roumania and Hungary) during the 60s. My office was in Vienna, Austria but I went to these countries all the time. The conditions at the workplace there were not bad. In one country (forget which one), they even had the German lumen law - it says that there must be so much natural lumen (light) at a workplace. That practically requires that every office has a window. Nobody in Germany would work in those dark cubicals that are common in the US. We only raise chicken and porc in such places.
    You're crushing my world here, whs. There were always and are strict commercial lighting code rules here. Except now because of "energy conservation" there needs to be installed either a rotary time switch or motion sensor that's timed to go off after a certain time at approximately $75 a crack instead of a traditional $3 switch just for expense.

    Question #1: Who's going to get up to go turn the lights back on when they go off? Keep in mind that it's dark if at night. Next rule would be to issue everyone a flashlight?!!

    Question #2: Who going to pay for the expense when these $75 switches go out. They don't last forever. Don't forget to add labor for replacement. I'd estimate at least $250 for labor and materials as a contractor. Same for in house maintenance by the time someone orders the switch, receives it, types up a work order, and sends someone to install it.

    The government must think that too many people don't have the common sense to turn the lights off.

    The point I'm attempting to make is that too many rules stifles commerce. It's gotten to be out of hand IMO.
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  6. #76


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    Windows 7 on the desktop, Windows 8 Surface Pro mobile


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    With regards to MS's business plan; Make a profit with a rather ingenious OS to usher us into the new age of modern computing. The marriage of the Modern/Metro touch-centric UI and the Internet while maintaining the desktop. At least for now.
    I don't mind the modern interface as it pertains to actual apps. The title Start Menu, however, is a fairly horrid way of doing things for reasons i've specified. The core problem is the enclosed feel of it where everything is trapped inside of a box inside of the screen extents. Psychologically that gives the feeling of beeing 'closed in', whereas every other modern interface goes to the extents of the screen, giving a feel of 'openness'.

    Simply swap between the desktop and tiles, you'll feel it.
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  7. #77


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Tony,

    I am not talking about artificial light, but natural light. The lumen law sets a certain standard for how much natural light has to be in an office - and that always requires that there must be windows so that you get enough light and can see outside.

    I once worked in such an artificially lit cubical in the US in the very early 60s. One day in winter I went to work and the landscape was green. In the afternoon when I went to get a coffee from a coffee machine that was near an outside glass door, I discovered that there was 1 foot of snow on the ground. Working inside the building without a window, I was not aware of that.

    The US lightning code is useful and OK. But that cannot substitute for natural light and the possibility to look into the outside world.
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  8. #78


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Wasn't there a time where there was a proper way of sitting at a computer? Even then, there were warnings on keyboards back in the '90s I remember about ergonomic health or whatever concerning that.

    But that's not really a concern these days, not many regard that.
    It's still current, with legal force, in the UK for employers providing computers for users to work with. Employers have to comply with it if they expect people to use computers as part of their jobs (which of course covers a lot of jobs these days).

    So for instance, the actual legislation says:

    Interestingly it also says this. I think Microsoft would do well to pay attention to the last bit about software ergonomics; if they get that wrong it would effectively be illegal to use Windows 10 or whatever in the workplace
    In designing, selecting, commissioning and modifying software, and in designing tasks using display screen equipment, the employer shall take into account the following principles:
    (a)software must be suitable for the task;
    (b)software must be easy to use and, where appropriate, adaptable to the level of knowledge or experience of the operator or user; no quantitative or qualitative checking facility may be used without the knowledge of the operators or users;
    (c)systems must provide feedback to operators or users on the performance of those systems;
    (d)systems must display information in a format and at a pace which are adapted to operators or users;
    (e)the principles of software ergonomics must be applied, in particular to human data processing.
    Not sure about the rest of the world, but it's gotten out of hand here in the U.S. IMO. Government is too big and too expensive. A bunch of bureaucrats sitting in their offices creating more work for themselves via rules and regulations and employment positions when there's more work load carrying out their rules and regulations. This is how government has gotten to be big. It also stifles commerce.

    I'm all for public safety and health, but some of these rules and regulations are simply common sense that should be left to the people themselves. The (a) (b) (c)'s you quoted are absolutely ludicrous . #1. They are common sense. #2. Who is the government to dictate to a business what is right or wrong to use?

    I've been in the building industry for 43 years. I've seen code books grow to astronomical sizes. As I've stated, I'm all for public safety and health, but a lot of rules and regulations that have simply gotten out of hand.

    i.e. There's a town in our county that made it a rule in their code that two houses next to each other cannot be the same color. (Vinyl siding is used most here in new housing developments.) The building company of that project now does extra work in keeping track of that. Some people are not allowed to have the color they desire. Absolutely ludicrous IMO.

    There's so many I'd like to comment on I could write a book. Here's the worse one. We're tornado prone here, especially in the Spring. I had a contract to frame a fairly large apartment complex roughly 10 years ago. They were three story buildings. They were set atop concrete frost walls and concrete slab floors. Code stated that at every outside corner two perforated steel straps were to be installed 16 inches in from the corners and every 12 feet down the wall. The straps were to be nailed every 16 inches to the interior edge of the studs continuously from the 1st floor wall bottom plate to the 3rd floor wall top plate. The 1st floor studs were fastened to the concrete slab with a specialized seismic steel anchor to a 1/2 inch bolt protruding from the slab. 2 lag bolts were used to fasten to the studs. There were approximately 20 straps per building. A lot of cost of material and labor.

    Guess what happened? A tornado came through a few years ago. Guess what was left of two buildings? You guessed it. The straps, the studs they were fastened to, and the bottom wall plates. Sadly 3 people lost their lives in those buildings that day. Says a lot for codes and engineering. Common sense tells that perhaps the cost should have gone into a tornado or fallout shelter. Perhaps the three would still be alive. I guess in this instance the government didn't know how powerful a tornado really is.
    As someone who is going into architecture, OH YEAH there are a shiteton of verbose building codes. The thing that really got to me is how it can be considered illegal to build a structure on YOUR property, have a building inspector come in and say that certain codes aren't met, and declare it unsafe to live in. EVEN THOUGH it is your property, YOU built it, and pay state, property, and federal taxes to have someone from that institution declare what YOU built on YOUR property unsafe to live in because of certain codes. Public safety is one thing, I understand that if it were public property for sure. But when it becomes private property in that circumstance, it makes little sense.

    But certain building codes DO need to be there, such as GFCI outlets (I wonder if building code here has been updated since my house was built some 15 years ago as the washer isn't plugged into a GFCI outlet and the drain pipe was clogged up some and spilling out, VERY close to the outlet) how much natural light and air should be in a room per square foot, how high windows should be placed for egress; those type of things make perfectly clear sense. Honestly, I believe building code should be more strict in things like sustainable practices in building, MUCH better insulation in homes (can't even begin to tell you how under insulated homes are in the US), more natural light, placing homes in such a way so the structure isn't under the hot side of the sun in the afternoon, and planting, yes PLANTING certain trees on that structure's landscape to shade the house some in the summer and allow it in the winter as well as certain trees to block the cold wind in the winter. Those kind of things REALLY need to be done.
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  9. #79


    Israel
    Posts : 26
    Windows 8 .164 bit


    looks good
    thank you!
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  10. #80


    Posts : 272
    windows 7


    Hmm interesting .
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