Ye old "Winload" issue at startup..

[Bobbo]

Still working on it. Had some progress.

I will try to do the Command from the /windows/system32 prompt tomorrow.

I was doing it from C:

the log told me that it needed to stop,when i knew the restorehealth parameter was running.for about two minutes.

It would help if I could do this "online", because I only have one disk

More tomorrow thanks

 

[Bobbo]

Got to the /windows/system32 prompt, but the command still errored out.

Its no wonder that people just wipe the disk and do a whole new install..or replace the disk..:shock:

I am an old PC tech so I would rather replace the disk, than get rid of all my "old" stuff. Low level format to wipe the disk with Hirens? Nah I would rather replace the disk if we cant get this figured out

Thanks guys for staying with me..

I think the online option doesn't work with the command prompt is because I only have one disk.
and the access to :c: with the image command errored out in the c: prompt in command prompt...

Thanks for your patience, guess today I will figure out how to copy the output in the command prompt to my USB stick, so I can post it like Z did.

Thanks X and Z and all you guys..patience is a virtue..

 

[Bobbo]

lets see if I can give you better feedback..

 

[XweAponX]

The /online switch cannot work when using an install disk, if the /image switch is not working, maybe there is a whole different syntax for doing it from the install disk. I'll have to look it up, but it should all be there in Shawn's Tutorial.

 

[Bobbo]

Thanks brother,,goodnight

 

[Ztruker]

You need /image:c:\ I believe.

 

[XweAponX]

I'm sorry, it is more complicated than I thought - I assumed you could just use the switch in the basic command, you can't. My bad.

Read here:

DISM Image Management Command-Line Options

I don't know if Shawn's Tutorial goes into it like that, but you may be able to find the exact Syntax for the command on that page.

If it is easier to just plop your install disk in and do a fresh install, at least you can do that, you should be able to recover all of your personal files in the Windows Old folder.

If you can get into the desktop at all, you can do an In-Place Install like with Windows 7. If you an get into Safe Mode maybe you can disable what is preventing boot.

You can try the Bootrec /Scanos command from the Install disk, maybe that can repair your bad boot loader. Try Bootrec /Fixmbr then Bootrec /Scanos and the latter might repair the bad boot entry. Like the DISM command, you have to CD to the C:\Windows\System32 folder to run Bootrec.

 

[Bobbo]

You need /image:c:\ I believe....


Yes Z that is what i used when I first had partial success.

Im just about ready to get a new disk and build it fresh...The old disk has a few copies of old drives..and if I dont want to low level format the seagate... Well I would rather just buy a new one than throw away all that old data..

Get back with you guys tommorow or the next day and tell you what i am doing..
Thanks for staying with me :shock: :thumb:

Ttly

 

[Bobbo]

Just got an email from from a Windows 8 Administrator...Has nothing to do with this thread.. Happy Holidays people..TTYL

 

[Bobbo]

Well I kinda gave up on repairing this PC with the Install disk..The program just doesn't want to run..

Here is my sitch and what I am going to do..in time

Windows 8.1 64 bit PC with one drive

I will replace the drive with an identical one.

Reload the software, antivirus, and get it all updated.

Keep checking back folks because when I have done this...,the results should be interesting

I expect that the old drive info saved in the new drive, is part of the problem..

So thank you so much for your time and I will have a solution...soon..


Thanks again folks :thumb:

 

[Ztruker]

If this is the case, you will have just re validated the axiom that a Clean Install is ALWAYS a better choice.

 

[David Bailey]

I figured I would post too.

I read the entire thread.

I read "use command prompt" being suggested.

You need Administrator Command Prompt.



Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

To paste the command into the Administrator Command Prompt:



Then:



It begins:

 

[XweAponX]

David - I was suggesting using that from the install disk, which he has. Unfortunately, the /online switch does not work unless you are booted into the windows 8 system. From the install disk you have to use the /image switch, and that is a much more complicated syntax then the easy online fix.

IF the system boots, then DISM /online is the easiest way to fix it - But from the Install Disk, it can't be run with that syntax. I spent 3 days investigating this, and I could not find s straight command line for it anywhere.

 

[David Bailey]

O well.

At least the info on copying & pasting into a command prompt might come in useful.

 

[XweAponX]

Yah I have done that, that's no sweat - It's just - WHAT syntax does he need to use for /image - He would have to enter the exact path to his WinSXS folder - Or wherever Windows 8.1 stores the Image Files. I don't know enough about it, I have been reading and reading but my head is exploding. And, booting from the install disk, you CAN cut and paste with the command prompt, but it is difficult. I used to edit LISP commands for AutoCAD, those are days I don't wanna remember.

 

[Bobbo]

Thanks X,and all that are contributing.:thumb:

I was tempted to try the install disk again..But as you said X. It is much too deep..

I'm gonna look on Ebay for another Seagate 2 TB Sata HD with the same Hardware..(yeah even including the cache and what-not)

Thanks for the posts and I shall Return

Have a Great Holiday folks

 

[Bobbo]

Merry Christmas all

May you all have a Awesome Christmas holiday 12-25-13
:thumb:
I shall Return with news Guys and Maybe Gals ?

Keep the Faith

 

[Bobbo]

OK I formatted and re installed Windows 8 Pro 64 bit and then 8.1 Pro 64 bit also.
Had help from Microsoft techs tier two at least..
Help was free

I am not using Bitdefender at the moment as antivirus I decided to use System Mechanic Pro, (So i could remove the Password protected files, Iolo, From the scans from BitDefender)

One of the techs helping me install 8.1 Pro told me he doesn't use an antivirus program. He deals with viruses as they come along......Well I don't work for Microsoft so...

I get that though...

The only difference in System Mechanic and system Mechanic Pro is the addition of antivirus software. So far so good.

So my problem originally titled is not totally fixed yet, Gotta give it a few days folks..

Will check back in a few weeks...

Happy New Year 2014

 

[Bobbo]

System Mechanic pro also had a few issues.
1. It ran in 16 bit too, (not that considered that a problem really..)

2. Windows would not recognize the anti-virus program as one, so it thought I was running without an antivirus...

So I re-installed Bitdefender.

No "winload" issues so far,so good.

will let you know in a coupe weeks

Thanks again folks