After spending an inordinate amount of time getting my old applications to work with Win 8 (and giving up for some) I finally had a system that seemed to be working. Then File Explorer started to freeze. I saw that I had not installed the recent updates. So I did this. Now a whole bunch of programs are simply crashing on me. First it was Symantec Framework, then the AMD catalyst. Now whenever I try to reply to or forward an email using Live Essentials I get the same basic message - Windows Live Mail has stopped working. I also cannot open the Photo Gallery (it seems to respond but nothing happens and it is not there on Task Manager). Overall, this new computer, which I bought with Win 8 loaded on it, is essentially useless. I am thinking of getting Win 7 put on it but would like to have a shot at fixing. I guess I cannot do a Refresh because I don't have the Win 8 installation disk. Ideas will be appreciated. I should say that I have nothing much installed (Live Essentials, OpenOffice, which I use consistently, and a few small things that I use rarely).