Windows 8 Pro to Core

well, the question is, can we ask Fillup to offer you his ISO if in fact his is the right version, in case the one you got does not work? cos we've already paid for the licences its just we are missing an actual ISO image.

Some will say yes and some will say no? It's all in how you interpret the EULA and Microsoft's licensing terms. I personally have no problem using my personal install media to install Windows on somebody else's PC while using their product code. The embedded codes in Windows 8 PC's make it even easier. No searching for a COA sticker or finding a COA sticker that you can't read. IMHO the factory recovery partitions just don't cut it in the real world. If your MBR gets hosed you have no way of doing the recovery. Upgrading and or swapping out your hard drive is an issue too. When I put an SSD in my laptop the recovery USB thumb drive I made would not restore to the SSD. I had to do a clean install. That meant hunting up install media. No easy feat I might add, as the OP has found out.
 

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Hi there
If you are using your ISO as a tool to repair / install windows on another machine (for which a license exists) I can't see what's wrong whatever the crummy lawyers say -- nobody has "stolen" any money.

It could be considered the same as taking a BMW to the nearest garage for an emergency repair when the Garage is say a FORD one. I doubt if you care WHO fixes your car if you had broken down -- same with your PC -- so long as it gets fixed are you bothered on HOW it was done.

However tell your guy to TAKE A BACKUP IMAGE once the machine is fixed.

I have about 12 "Clones" of a Windows 8 VM - identical "Virtual Hardware" for which there is ONE license -- but I only run these VM's ONE at a time so AFAIK I'm not actually breaking the EULA. Ms is a bit circumspect over the whole idea of Virtual machines anyway.

This sort of stuff is a "Grey area" -- you'll have to rely on "between you and your maker" on how you interpret what's allowable and what's not.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Hi there
If you are using your ISO as a tool to repair / install windows on another machine (for which a license exists) I can't see what's wrong whatever the crummy lawyers say -- nobody has "stolen" any money.
I have to agree with you on this. The license "to me" is the only thing that matters. As long as you aren't walking into a physical store and physically stealing a copy of the media, I don't see where anything has been done wrong. If you buy a computer and later call the manufacturer and get a reinstall disk, what guarantee do you have that it's the exact disk for that exact computer. The discs are all the same, as long as you have a license key that is valid and legit I simply cannot see where anything has been done wrong.

It's like buying digital software, installing it and then later having to redownload it again to reinstall again. As long as you have the key, who cares if this was your third download of the same thing.
 

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I personally have no problem using my personal install media to install Windows on somebody else's PC while using their product code. The embedded codes in Windows 8 PC's make it even easier. No searching for a COA sticker or finding a COA sticker that you can't read. IMHO the factory recovery partitions just don't cut it in the real world. If your MBR gets hosed you have no way of doing the recovery. Upgrading and or swapping out your hard drive is an issue too. When I put an SSD in my laptop the recovery USB thumb drive I made would not restore to the SSD. I had to do a clean install. That meant hunting up install media. No easy feat I might add, as the OP has found out.

Yep! I'm not that lucky, I have two old Asus M2N boards, one of of them proprietary for an old HP. I rememebr when this HP was brand new, it was beautiful, running Media Centre. It's got a Falcon TV card in it, unfortunately, it requires some kind of remote to use it, other than that, it detects, and it shows up in Media Center. But you cannot program it without the remote.

Actually that PC was bought by a shop, I told a guy to get it. It finally fried, but I was able to resurrect the motherboard, and I got him something better and newer.Of all of the HP systems I have ever dealt with, this one has shown the most resilience, it ran XP MCE Vista 7 and now 8. Just somethng about the combination of hardware I got, makes is haul arse, so I've used it for media streaming for the last 3 years - When I aquired the Box, I was intending to just strip out the RAM and CPU and use them in something else, but I saw a couple of easily repairable issues on the MB and I dealt with it, and the board then fired right up into the BIOS.

I wish the BIOS was a little mroe sophisticated, it is dumbed down for HP users. As opposed to Dell BIOS, which are colplicated now and look like LCARS terminals and if you choose something wrong is can mess you up quickly.

Yah, normally, when I look for media on the net, I always get unaltered ISO images. There are always ways to beat activation, and I can't lie and say I've never used them, but I have my own licenses for all of my OS's.

Sometimes, when I make a repair to a customer's system, I have to do something a little out of the ordinary. I always make sure to tell them, they have to buy the proper licences. I've had a lot of trouble, cos these systems are normally OEM boxes with a Product Key on the side. Yet, when I try to use that Product key for a reinstall - Using the supplied Install Disk, which always insisted they get - It would REFUSE to even accept the key during installation! Or, it would not activate, and would say the Licence is bad. How can it be bad, if it is the licence which came with the system?!?! Grr! In some cases, I called MS and they gave me the right license, other times they basically would not do anything, it depended on who I got on the phone.
 

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