Win XP mode in Win 8

[AC]

eBay or Amazon would be the only place you could buy it. Have you tried running your old programs in compatibility mode?

 

[area 66]

Thanks Area 66 for the alternative Hyper-V though "remote desktop" is unknown to me. Is it specific to Win 8?

it's not new, we use it on servers since 2008 ( I think) but on a Desktop OS, yes Windows 8 is the first to have it. it's built-it so nothing to download, it just have to be enable. The remote desktop is an application for access other computers on a network, it'S free from Microsoft. You need it as when you have a VM is like if it's another PC on the network, Actually all the other Vm solution mention here as their own build in remote access, ( kind of )

 

[clubfoot]

If you still have the Dell laptop the product key may be on the windows label on the bottom of the laptop.

 

[Hopachi]

Thanks Area 66 for the alternative Hyper-V though "remote desktop" is unknown to me. Is it specific to Win 8?

it's not new, we use it on servers since 2008 ( I think) but on a Desktop OS, yes Windows 8 is the first to have it. it's built-it so nothing to download, it just have to be enable. The remote desktop is an application for access other computers on a network, it'S free from Microsoft. You need it as when you have a VM is like if it's another PC on the network, Actually all the other Vm solution mention here as their own build in remote access, ( kind of )

Remote desktop complicates things for single desktop users.

Running your VM's on a single pc and with no network... how do you remote then?
VMware or VirtualBox were made for this kind of usage, Hyper-V wasn't. Ok, Hyper-V will work but you don't have sound and is more difficult to setup by beginner users.

That explains everything.

 

[area 66]

Remote desktop complicates things for single desktop users.

Running your VM's on a single pc and with no network... how do you remote then?
VMware or VirtualBox were made for this kind of usage, Hyper-V wasn't. Ok, Hyper-V will work but you don't have sound and is more difficult to setup by beginner users.

That explains everything.

Hopachi it's very wrong your reply;

1- With remote desktop you have sound and better resolution, it's call Audio over RDP

Hyper-V Troubleshooting: Enabling Audio Over RDP - TechNet Articles - United States (English) - TechNet Wiki

2- No network, lol you never ear of virtual switch, VMware or VirtualBox use it, VM are isolate with Vmware too, so they pass by the same virtual network you create in Hyper-v to access the VM




3- Complicate thing, may be but it'S far more stable and will not bug Windows 8 , because I can tell you, VMware create few bugs in Windows

Aside this was only another option, I don't means it was the best one, I just want to show all the options so I don't know why you come argue on something you obviously don't know, it's like only you can give an option

 

[krewblues]

Since I have to buy XP do I need to get one that says its a full OEM version?
I found this Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 Full oem Version and assume will work for what I want to do with it. And do all xp versions come with a product code or what ever registering number I need?

SOrry for all the questions but I want to get the right thing before plunking down my $.

 

[Hopachi]

Remote desktop complicates things for single desktop users.

Running your VM's on a single pc and with no network... how do you remote then?
VMware or VirtualBox were made for this kind of usage, Hyper-V wasn't. Ok, Hyper-V will work but you don't have sound and is more difficult to setup by beginner users.

That explains everything.

Hopachi it's very wrong your reply;

1- With remote desktop you have sound and better resolution, it's call Audio over RDP

Hyper-V Troubleshooting: Enabling Audio Over RDP - TechNet Articles - United States (English) - TechNet Wiki

2- No network, lol you never ear of virtual network, VMware or VirtualBox use it, VM are isolate with Vimeare too, so they pass by the same virtual network you create in Hyper-v to access the VM

3- Complicate thing, may be but it'S far more stable and will not bug Windows 8 , because I can tell you, VMware create few bugs in Windows

Aside this was only another option, I don't means it was the best one, I just want to show all the options so I don't know why you come argue on something you obviously don't know

My apologies on the matter.

So the virtual network is the one we're talking about.
I have to admit that I'm a beginner with the remote desktop thing and I'll study the article you provided.

The fact that VMware creates a few bugs on windows is known (personally I don't know how bad the situation is) but never had any problems with it.

I personally like Hyper-V integrates well in Windows and is x64 native.
I run Win8 standard and there is no way to enable Hyper-V here.
I'd like to test more VM's there, get more into the matter and not just complaining about stuff I don't know.


Thanks for the explanation and for the link.

Hopachi

 

[krewblues]

Whew! lots of great help and information! The product code is in fact still on the underside of the dell laptop. So I can install the XP from the disc that came with the dell and use the product code from it and then do all the updates?

 

[area 66]

another think , just to make sure the OP don't think he need a CPU

There is MS HYPER-V (more designed for business use) but you'll have to enable it, is more advanced, requires a newer CPU .....
.

the op have a i3-2300 , it's support Hyper-v

actually I talk about remote desktop , this is the best but hyper-v on Windows 8 as a built it Gui Hyper-V management, you have some sort of control on the VM,

here how to install hyper-v , it's not more complicate than other vm solution

Installing Hyper-V in Windows 8

 

[DarkMart]

I tried Hyper-V and I dont recommend it as an alternative of the XP mode that Windows 7 has. Why ?

1) Hyper-V is more complicated for a lot of users. But as a computer scientist, i was not afraid to try it.
2) If you use directly the client of Hyper-V Management to connect to your virtual machine, you will have no sound.
3) You can have sound with Remote Desktop Connection, but you can't use it to connect on the same machine. Not usefull when you just want to play with your old games on the same PC that hosts your virtual machine.

I think Hyper-V is a great tool for servers, but for personnal use, it's more like a waste of time for now...

For my personnal virtual machine, I did all the steps required and I also add an external virtual connection, but it doesnt seem to have acces to Internet.

I really think that Windows 7 XP mode was better for personnal use. In facts, with this XP Mode, it was not necessary to have a license of Windows XP.

 

[Hopachi]

Great article.

If I want to turn on Hyper-V, this applies to Win8 PRO and Enterprise x64 only, right?
So the OP wil have to use Win8 Pro x64 to be able to create VM's.

 

[krewblues]

Thanks for the link. Let me see if I understand this. Hyper V works with 32 nd 64. The win8 pro is 64 and the XP home is 32. So hper V will "play nice" with both?

 

[Hopachi]

I tried Hyper-V and I dont recommend it as an alternative of the XP mode that Windows 7 has. Why ?

1) Hyper-V is more complicated for a lot of users. But as a computer scientist, i was not afraid to try it.
2) If you use directly the client of Hyper-V Management to connect to your virtual machine, you will have no sound.
3) You can have sound with Remote Desktop Connection, but you can't use it to connect on the same machine. Not usefull when you just want to play with your old games on the same PC that hosts your virtual machine.

I think Hyper-V is a great tool for servers, but for personnal use, it's more like a waste of time for now...

For my personnal virtual machine, I did all the steps required and I also add an external virtual connection, but it doesnt seem to have acces to Internet.

I really think that Windows 7 XP mode was better for personnal use. In facts, with this XP Mode, it was not necessary to have a license of Windows XP.

Welcome to the club.

I also tested it a few times, compared to VBox and VMware Player on a SINGLE computer.

This is what I also tried to explain: for personal use on a single computer, Hyper-V is not the best solution.
Most people still use 32bit systems (transition to x64 is still in progress) and you cannot use it there either.

 

[area 66]

3) You can have sound with Remote Desktop Connection, but you can't use it to connect on the same machine. Not usefull when you just want to play with your old games on the same PC that hosts your virtual machine.
.

That's not true I have sound Using RDC on a Hyper-V on the same Windows Host , Remote Desktop as no way to know the VM is running on the Host

You see with Hyper-v the hypervsor is install betwen the physical layer and the Parent and Child Partition, so what we call the Host in other system is the parent partition on hyper-v and what we call VM are Child in hyper-v, if you look at the drawing the child ( VM ) don't pass by the parent ( host)





on system like Vmware the hypervisor run inside the OS, that make a huge difference

aside if you want to play games, then you better with Vmware Workstation as it as 3d acceleration

Welcome to the club.

I.

to the club of what, the one who don't know hyper-v ...lol

 

[krewblues]

Well I'm in over my head lol. Since I'm a true novice at this sort of thing, VBox or VMware is simpler to understand, install and use, is this correct? I need really simple. I just want to have access to all my xp files, photos, programs (which I guess is the point of having a "virtual" XP). And I come back to which XP program I should buy. Home edition, which is what I have on my old computer because all my files are done on a 32bit system?

 

[area 66]

Thanks for the link. Let me see if I understand this. Hyper V works with 32 nd 64. The win8 pro is 64 and the XP home is 32. So hper V will "play nice" with both?

you need a pc with a CPU that support x64 to run hyper-v, but the child ( VM ) can be 32 bits

 

[area 66]

Well I'm in over my head lol. Since I'm a true novice at this sort of thing, VBox or VMware is simpler to understand, install and use, is this correct? I need really simple. I just want to have access to all my xp files, photos, programs (which I guess is the point of having a "virtual" XP). And I come back to which XP program I should buy. Home edition, which is what I have on my old computer because all my files are done on a 32bit system?

Just use the one you like, I use Vmware Workstation on my PC ( $ 200 ) and hyper-v only in my 8 ( yes 8 ) hyper-v dedicated servers

I was talking about Hyper-v as an option , Others members insist to use what they suggest , I just give my opinion and I correct some mistakes that some members did about it.

 

[krewblues]

714, I haven't even set up my new laptop yet, so the answer if no, I haven't tried compatibility mode. Before setting up my new macchine I wanted to be sure I understood how to use XP with it so I could set that up before everything else cuz all my programs are for xp. I did find XP for sale at this site
Microsoft Windows XP Home Version
quite a few versions in fact. Again, I just don't know which one to get.

 

[Hopachi]

Welcome to the club.

I.

to the club of what, the one who don't know hyper-v ...lol

Call it how you like.
There is no way a beginner user will find working in Hyper-V easier than in VirtualBox or VMware Player.

If you're an expert, you'll have to look at the situation on all knowledge levels.
Not everyone will understand the problem at the same rate.

 

[krewblues]

Area 66, way back at the beginning of the tread I believe it said you could download vbox and vmware for free. Is your vmware workstation the deluxe model for the $200? (8 servers! Whoa!