Win 8, so long, been a trauma to know you....

[Kat]

That's my guess, Cluberti.

Probably be solved once Nvidia extract the digit.

Not a huge issue anyway, as I have more than one laptop, so
it's easy enough to run 7 on one and 8 on the other.

My poor, overworked, over-hotted Pentium 4 desktop contains
multiple hard disks (about seven of them!), each with its own
OS and software. They range from a DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11 setup
through W95/98, ME, XP Pro, Vista (!!!) and the Win 8 DP. Oh,
and there are a couple of Linux distros as well. I'm looking for
an HDD SMALL enough to install PC GEOS on (I have the OS).

Anyone here remember GEOS?

I really am spoiled for choice when it comes to operating systems.

ATM, Windows 7 is king. But, once you diss Metro, and replace some
of the lost functionality, Windows 8 is certainly a contender.

It's just a shame it LOOKS so bloody ugly....

 

[cluberti]

Well, looks are personal - I've used Win8 as a daily driver since October, and I find I can't easily go back to the Win7 UI anymore. I learned to really like Win8, once I got used to it and forced myself to unlearn 17 years of how to use the UI.

 

[Kat]

OK, after an abortive attempt to install the 32-bit RP on my AS5735, I restored
the original Win 7 Ultimate setup from a system image.

The RP insists that my CPU (Core 2 Duo T6400, 2Ghz) isn't compatible with Win 8.

This despite the fact that the SAME system LOVES the CP!!!!!


My dilemma.....


1. Keep W7 Ult?

or.......

2. Re-upgrade to the CP, which the system loves, knowing that it cannot run the final build?

or.......

3. Haxor the CP to keep it alive as long as poss?

Oh, BTW, the 64-bit RP has proven once again to be an unstable piece of carp, so I'm
back on Win 7 on this machine, too.

I'm d/l-ing the free RTM trial, and will give it a fair go, but I am not optimistic.

This goes well beyond Metro. Love it, hate it, bypass it, not an issue. Don't care? Up
to you. Personal taste, and all that, y'know..I boot past it, but access it AS NEEDED.

The DP suxored, I doubt anyone would argue with that (still does, actually, I have it
in a VM). And I've tried the 64-bit RP, which is so crash-prone as to be a joke.

The RTM looks so bland, when I saw the first s/s I thought I was looking at Vista with
all the eye-candy turned off (and that WAS horrid).

I WANT my Aero back. I run a high-end 2nd-gen Sandy-bridge i7 with plenty of RAM
and graphics (GeForce 2Gb) and refuse to accept that performance is, or should be, an
excuse to remove it. Just be good boys, and put it back.

I use ClassicShell and QuickLaunch, and, from THAT POV, Win 8 is great.

I just wish they'd released the CP as the RTM. Bugger $49, I'd pay full-price for a
smoothed-over CP. It worked No BS. A few driver issues that will/would be sorted
anyway, that's it. And BOTH my machines like it.

Certainly for 64-bit machines, the CP wins hands-down, so far, and, as I said, my
32-bit lappy LOVES the CP (but won't even RUN the RP).

Wouldn't take the RP if it was free (OK, it was, and I did, but the point remains).

Utter rubbish.

 

[chev65]

For me the RP is the most stable so far and is rock solid on my particular system.

It's so good I don't want to mess with the RTM yet not to mention that no aero and no gadgets is a deal breaker for me.

I plan on keeping this RP going long as possible.

 

[cluberti]

Yes, the RP has CPU issues with certain Intel CPUs - I'd download the Enterprise Trial or a copy from MSDN / TechNet (if you have a sub) and see if it installs. The CPU issues should have been fixed prior to the RTM release, and of course would be included in the RTM bits.

 

[Kat]

Thanks, Cluberti, am d/l-ing the RTM (90-day trial) now.

Will take a few days, as I am currently 'shaped'.

Will give it a 'go' soonest.

 

[Kernel]

Anyone here remember GEOS?

Absolutely.

http://www.commodore.ca/history/company/geodesktop.gif

 

[Kat]

Heheh.

That's the version I have for my C64.

There's a PC version kicking around here somewhere....

 

[Fredledingue]

DESK TOP in two words, how cute!

 

[FSeal]

And Kernal with an A

 

[Mike Lonewolf]

Bad Jimbo!! You KNOW we can't say Windows 8 Metro anymore!! Saying Metro is BAD!! It's JUST Windows 8 now. LoL And the former portion known as Metro is Windows Start.

Laughing!!

 

[R0bR]

no aero and no gadgets is a deal breaker for me.

You realize there are security issues with Gadgets, hence why they've been removed from Windows 8. There is also an advisory from Microsoft to disable them in W7 and Vista.

 

[Kernel]

Heheh.

That's the version I have for my C64.

There's a PC version kicking around here somewhere....

Let me tell you something. I realize there are older gentleman on here that did wiz stuff in the 70s and maybe even 60s. All awesome to that but I have my own story.

Playing on the C64, loaded Geos, maybe I'm 7 or 8 years old, phone modem at 300 bps, family complaining that the phone was tied up, Q-Link internet provider so I didn't just have to use bbs, cheap tv connected as monitor, found a download and don't even remember the format or file type but I did download it and it took hours.

Can't even tell you how I made it play because I forget. But when I did make it play, it was a low quality but very decent for the times and lasted like 20 seconds max, if that -

"Everybody was kung-fu fighting
Those cats were fast as lightning"

I could not accept or believe what my pc was doing. Amazed is a true understatement.

After that, there was a Led Zeppelin snippet I got and that's the same story.

 

[R0bR]

Can't even tell you how I made it play because I forget. But when I did make it play, it was a low quality but very decent for the times and lasted like 20 seconds max, if that -

"Everybody was kung-fu fighting
Those cats were fast as lightning"

I could not accept or believe what my pc was doing. Amazed is a true understatement.

After that, there was a Led Zeppelin snippet I got and that's the same story.

I found the exact same song snippit from a german BBS site but my download came with a utility to make your own snippets. I plugged in my tape drive from my VIC 20 to my C64 and recorded 20 second snippit from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. I was freaking out during the whole time and was in awe of what I had done.

Another one that freaked me out was a download called Daisy-Daisy, when you ran it your 3.5" floppy drive would play the Daisy Daisy children song through the internal mechanics. Very freaky.

 

[Kernel]

Another one that freaked me out was a download called Daisy-Daisy, when you ran it your 3.5" floppy drive would play the Daisy Daisy children song through the internal mechanics. Very freaky.

Emphasis added is mine. Wut?!?!? I do believe you of course, but still....wut?!?!

hahah very awesome!

 

[Kat]

Can't even tell you how I made it play because I forget. But when I did make it play, it was a low quality but very decent for the times and lasted like 20 seconds max, if that -

"Everybody was kung-fu fighting
Those cats were fast as lightning"

I could not accept or believe what my pc was doing. Amazed is a true understatement.

After that, there was a Led Zeppelin snippet I got and that's the same story.

I found the exact same song snippit from a german BBS site but my download came with a utility to make your own snippets. I plugged in my tape drive from my VIC 20 to my C64 and recorded 20 second snippit from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. I was freaking out during the whole time and was in awe of what I had done.

Another one that freaked me out was a download called Daisy-Daisy, when you ran it your 3.5" floppy drive would play the Daisy Daisy children song through the internal mechanics. Very freaky.

Were you one of the lucky ones who actually got the TiB 3.5" drive to WORK on a C64?

I gave up on mine years ago, as, I suspect, did most. Weren't cheap, either.....

I do run 2 x 5.25" drives on it, tho.

 

[Mike Lonewolf]

Impossible!! The ONLY floppy drives back then were the 5.25" drives, that is why I switched to an Osbourne1 after my Vic20. Oh yeah BTW! I still have my 300bps Commodore modem, someone want to buy it?

 

[Kat]

Impossible!! The ONLY floppy drives back then were the 5.25" drives, that is why I switched to an Osbourne1 after my Vic20. Oh yeah BTW! I still have my 300bps Commodore modem, someone want to buy it?

They came out towards the end of the C64's 'useful' life, around 1992 or 3.

They were a modified PC or Amiga 3.5" drive, from memory, in a case like
the Amiga's external 3.5", wired to connect to the serial port.

They were not a success, there were major controller incompatibilities and
virtually no software was available to take advantage of them.

 

[Mike Lonewolf]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, OIC. I was to the understanding that they came out just before the 80386sx/dx did, at the end of the 80286 life. And the Vic20 was an 8088, and C64 was an 8086, so strikes me as very weird they had that type of floppy with either of them. I had the Vic20, and it used a cassette tape drive for storage, and programs, and was cartridge based for applications (firmware), and external hardware (Modem & Storage cartridge). And they were slightly bigger than a Betamax tape.