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Why would I want to switch to Windows 10?


orlandotek

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#1
So far I have really not seen anything impressive with Windows 10.

They seem to be doing away with a lot of things I like about Windows 8.1 including the charms bar.

I have been so enamored with Windows 8.1 especially on a touch device, I have all be
abandoned my desktop PC and have two Windows 8.1 tablets that I mainly use.

Are we going to be required to move to Windows 10? If I decide not to, what will I be really missing out on?
 

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TairikuOkami

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#2
The question is: Why not? Basically, it is just a service pack for 8.1. It has Directx12, which is supposed to increase your hardware speed significantly. Even, if you are not a gamer, it will improve things like HD. But to be honest, as I was testing 10, it was getting slower and slower with each build, we will see. :think:
 

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Ztruker

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#4
9 morphed into 10.

10 is okay and I like it but 8.1 is as good or better for me. They are making lots of changes to the way you do things, like the Control Panel is gone and everything is moved into Settings (PC Settings on 8.1) which you can't access if you have UAC disabled. Not a show stopper but annoying for me.

I find it quick and so far solid. I just upgraded to build 10074 on my Dell 15R laptop and it runs really good on it. I also run it in a VM under Windows 8.1 and it runs well there too. That's what I suggest you do as well. Install Oracle VirtualBox or VMWare, join the insider program and install the Windows 10 Technical Preview in a VM to play with.
 

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hannelius

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#5
UAC... those are those annoying messages
that keep you from doing things?
i turned mine off too...

maybe they'll be a workaround...
might be worth a try if it's faster on videos...








My System Specs: windows 3.11 dosbox 0.74...
 

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rrecroc

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#6
American car makers used to change some major aspect of the exterior of their car every year ..... change for change's sake. TThen, they learned from the Asians that if something sold well, leave it alone (with minor improvements each year), until sales start to drop. I don't believe in change for change's sake but in accumulation/refinement . Classic cars, guitars etc do not change but stay their well-liked and "perfect" selves. Moving something from Control Panel to Settings will only confuse and aggravate people (unless it improves things significantly ). It took MS decades to accumulate a number of useful GUI's ....... then they threw most of them out with Win 8 ....... if 10 loses as many easily accessible interfaces relative to 8 as 8 did relative to 7, we all will be using the Command Line to do everything.
 

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CountMike

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Ugh, don't get me started with Asian (Japanese mostly) car manufacturers. While I was working in spare car parts industry, I used to get new parts specs every few month while for American and European cars most parts stayed same for years.
Since Win 95, windows did not change too much and most changes are made pretty gradually, I never had to chase anything new more than few moments and always switched to new version as soon as HW allowed. Starting with beta and even alpha (in case of Win8) versions helped somewhat.
 

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Rocky

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#8
To the OP. The Charms thingy is my least favorite aspect of Windows 8, what do you like about it?
 

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DeaconFrost

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#9
It's free, so that's a big point right there. It's also quick and seems very stable already. I'm a big fan of the hybrid start menu/start screen. Not everyone is running 8.1 on a touch screen, and the same will be said about Windows 10. Did I mention it's free?
 

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paulsalter

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#10
It's free
As you are mainly using a tablet I don't see many benefits of 10, the UI is not as nice as 8

I will be getting it as it's free, but I think its a downgrade from 8, which for me works much nicer for the mouse/keyboard/touch combination
 

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whs

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1. You can stay where you are. Nobody will force you to go to W10

2. They changed a lot of the UI. W10 has become more of a tablet OS than a desktop OS. The demise of the Control Panel is regrettable.

3. The only performance number that you can retrieve from the system is boot performance (Event 100). And that takes twice as long for W10 as for W8.1. I have made a comparison in exactly the same system environment. The rest of the performance is really not measurable and you have to go by gutt feeling.

4. I recommend you participate in the W10TP program. Then you can judge for yourself. Check in the tenforums. There you can get a lot of useful tips.
 

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DeaconFrost

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but I think its a downgrade from 8, which for me works much nicer for the mouse/keyboard/touch combination
In my usage, I would have said the opposite. I feel Windows 10 is more usable with a keyboard and mouse than 8.1 (out of the box, no software like StartIsBack loaded).

It's one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Windows 10, because only one of my devices out of four computers I use is a tablet with a touch screen (Surface Pro 3).
 

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paulsalter

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#13
but I think its a downgrade from 8, which for me works much nicer for the mouse/keyboard/touch combination
In my usage, I would have said the opposite. I feel Windows 10 is more usable with a keyboard and mouse than 8.1 (out of the box, no software like StartIsBack loaded).

It's one of the reasons I'm looking forward to Windows 10, because only one of my devices out of four computers I use is a tablet with a touch screen (Surface Pro 3).
Have you tried 10 on Surface Pro 3, there is little talk about people using it on Tablet/Touch devices so be interested if you have, for me this is where my main criticisms come

Desktop wise, even though I prefer 8, I don't have any real problems here and will be updating as soon as I can
 

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#14
Before I tried 10 TP I made a Macrium image of my 8.1.1 system.

I didn't like 10 so I inserted my USB image & got my 8.1.1 back.
 

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DeaconFrost

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I haven't tried Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 3, but I'd like to. It's my primary work system, so I'm hesitant to take a chance, but I should have the chance to soon after I get through a few meetings and projects.
 

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Ztruker

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They put back the Start button though so they do learn.
 

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whs

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They put back the Start button though so they do learn.
All they did is give you a shrunk start page with the apps in the left pane. I think the 8.1 solution was better regarding the Apps.
 

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Burgurne

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I don't use touch at all. Only desktop is interresting for me (gamer-PC), so most of Win8(.1) was a downer compared to winddows 7. I don't like the "new" flat look of Windows 8.1, but I like the small amount of PC-power windows 8.1 have to use compared to windows 7. I miss aero, rounded corners for my windows, a LOT of tweaking to the look of desktop and windows and controls and the start-menu.
When all that said, I am looking forward to Windows 10, I have tried it severel times, but as it still don't come in my language, I have not used it as main OS. I guess my language will first surface when windows 10 is at sale (or give-away status).
But, as other has written in this thread, it seems like every new build of Windows 10 look more like windows 7, and at the same time seems to getting slower and slower.
 

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i think i'll wait...
 

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