Microsoft Admits MSE is Just Basic Protection

I would lend him some ammo too.
Anyway, I use Avast last couple of years now and have updates 5 times a day sometimes, I don't think they would bather with such support for a free product if they did not deem it necessary. With so much new mallware showing up all the time why does not MS have such practice ?
Anyhow. I think I understood MS right, that they never claimed that their protection is the only thing one should have and that it's the best there is.
 

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I have been (and still am) using MSE, along with MBAM Pro on all of my personal computers and recommending it to those whose PC's I work on. I haven't seen a virus get through yet, but occasionally a piece of malware does get through...
 

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I have been (and still am) using MSE, along with MBAM Pro on all of my personal computers and recommending it to those whose PC's I work on. I haven't seen a virus get through yet, but occasionally a piece of malware does get through...

What are you using for a firewall, Win firewall? I'm using the windows firewall with tinywall and it seems to do a good job. I have tested eset, norton and a few others and all seem to fail even basic leak tests like this one: https://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm Windows firewall with tinywall has no problem passing it.
 

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Ditto here mSE and malwarebytes pro on all my windows 7 computers and all my business and home users with no problems nor baddies and windows firewall on lyncsis routers
 

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I have been (and still am) using MSE, along with MBAM Pro on all of my personal computers and recommending it to those whose PC's I work on. I haven't seen a virus get through yet, but occasionally a piece of malware does get through...

What are you using for a firewall, Win firewall? I'm using the windows firewall with tinywall and it seems to do a good job. I have tested eset, norton and a few others and all seem to fail even basic leak tests like this one: https://www.grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm Windows firewall with tinywall has no problem passing it.
I have a hardware firewall (Cisco), so I don't use a software firewall on the server and clients on my LAN at home...
 

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MSE has always been good to me, never really had a problem. I'll continue to use Windows Defender 'cause common-sense comes into this a lot. :D
 

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Hi there
Why are we bothering to discuss this here -- MSE is for WINDOWS 7 -- while some of the same engine is used in W8 - the mechanism is totally different as the security is part of the kernel. In W8.1 it's better too.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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I never saw MSE as anything other than a basic protection method. But, since I only download from sites I trust, I don't need any more.

It is like safety gear in a car. The standard shoulder/lap belt and airbags combined with crumple zones do just fine at freeway speed and below... if you wish to race (i.e. visit warez sites) then a full racing harness and roll bar are in order. Frankly, I don't need the full racing package for my commute, and I don't need the additional overhead on my computer. :)

Would I be slightly more safe with the additional protections in either case? Sure... but if I am careful, the risk of not upgrading is minimal.

I hereby reserve the right to change my mind at any time.
 

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