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Solved Lenovo backup


COMPUTIAC

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I have a Lenovo Z710 laptop(see spec's)and want to make a recovery USB and also setup a backup system. This is a new machine and I don't want to make a mess of it, so I wanted to get the best advice I could before I did anything to it.

I have a 32GB USB drive to make the Recovery on.
Lenovo refers me to this method to make a Recovery USB :Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo Think system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload

Is this a good way to do this or is there a better way ?

I also need to setup a backup system, what is the best program to use for this, paid or not ?

I have a 1TB HDD in an external enclosure with 3.0 USB cable to use for the backup's.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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Yes, that way works and creates a bootable flash drive to use for recovery. I suggest you try booting it after you create it to learn how [DEL]as you will have to disable Secure Boot and enable Emulation in UEFI setup.[/DEL]

Edit: Not true, see later posts
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

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Ztruker,
Thank's for your reply, can you further explain the second part ?

Is secure boot on all Win 8.1 ? How do I find out if I have UEFI ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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It's part of the computer, not the OS. UEFI is like BIOS. I have a new Lenovo IdeaCenter K450. [DEL]To boot the created flash drive, I had to do as I described:

Under Boot Tab
Change Boot mode to Legacy, USB Boot should be enabled

Under Security
Secure Boot Has to Be disabled[/DEL]

You press F1 to get to the Setup (aka BIOS) screen.
I believe F12 takes you to the boot selection screen.

Edit: Not true, see later posts
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

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What you described is for testing the USB I will make ?

If the OS becomes unusable, then I will be able to plug in the USB and the machine will boot directly from it ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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Yes, the USB flash drive you create following the Guide you posted the link to. I used a 16GB flash drive and it has 2.7GB free now.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

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If I use the 32GB drive can I put anything else on it or is it better to have only the Lenovo Recovery on it ?

Also, what is a good backup program to use ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

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Yes, that way works and creates a bootable flash drive to use for recovery. I suggest you try booting it after you create it to learn how as you will have to disable Secure Boot and enable Emulation in UEFI setup.
I have Lenovo G580 laptop with Windows 8 preinstalled.

You don't need to change UEFI firmware (BIOS) settings, because Windows 8 Recovery USB Flash Drive is UEFI Boot Mode and Secure Boot compatible (as shown in figure below).

1. Insert the USB Recovery media into an available USB port.
2. Restart or turn on the Lenovo and select F12 (interactive Boot menu) at the Lenovo Logo.

Lenovo Boot Menu.png

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/5132-recovery-drive-create-usb-flash-drive-windows-8-a.html
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo G580
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-3230M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, standard user account
    Other Info
    UEFI firmware (BIOS) embedded Windows 8 product key.

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Yes, that way works and creates a bootable flash drive to use for recovery. I suggest you try booting it after you create it to learn how as you will have to disable Secure Boot and enable Emulation in UEFI setup.
Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo Think system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload

NO need to DISABLE Secure Boot as the method is signed by Microsoft for use with Windows 8, uEFI, GPT & Secure Boot.

You can Order Lenovo Recovery Disks from here:
Lenovo Support - Home (US)
Click on Parts & Accessories.
or
https://www.lenovorecovery.com/Extranet/Home.aspx
 

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    Desktops x 5

    Towers x 4

Ztruker

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That's very weird. I just set BIOS back to default, Secure Boot enabled and Compatibility disabled. I used F12 to get to the boot menu, selected the flash drive and it booted correctly. I know it didn't do this before but I must have done something wrong.

So, as genect and theog said, it will boot with no BIOS setup changes needed. Just use F12 to get to teh boot menu and off you go.

Sorry for the bogus information. I've corrected my prior posts.

I was able to talk Lenovo into sending me the recovery disc set (6 discs) after complaining I couldn't get the flash drive to boot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

COMPUTIAC

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Ztruker,
I tried the link theog posted to order the disk's but it did not lead to anything I could find to order them. I guess I will have to call them on Monday.
Was there any charge for the disk's for you ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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Normally thre is a charge but I whined and complained until they sent them for free :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

COMPUTIAC

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One last question;
can I use a 32GB micro sd with a usb adapter to make the Recovery Media ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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Can you boot from a micro SD?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

COMPUTIAC

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Can you boot from a micro SD?
I have not tried it yet.
No one has given an answer, so I don't know if it will work or not.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

Ztruker

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It has to be selectable from the boot menu. I don't see it for my new Lenovo, just flash key or HDD.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    [email protected]
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH

COMPUTIAC

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I tried to make it and after maybe 20 min. or so it said it was unable to create it.

It flashed something on the screen about scan something, I could not catch it all.

I tried doing this from a 3.0 USB slot if that makes a difference.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.

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I tried to make it and after maybe 20 min. or so it said it was unable to create it.

It flashed something on the screen about scan something, I could not catch it all.

I tried doing this from a 3.0 USB slot if that makes a difference.
Update:

I tried to make the Recovery Media USB using a Micro SD card with a USB 2.0 adapter again.

This time I used a 2.0 USB slot on the computer.

It gave the same message almost to the end; unable to create Recovery Drive; Then; Scan drive now; clicked on it; it displayed repair drive; clicked on this and it said drive is ready for use.

How do I test this without doing any damage to the OS ?

How far can I go in testing before it changes anything and still be able to cancel it ?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1.1 64 bit
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Z710 #59400485
    CPU
    i7-4700MQ
    Motherboard
    LENOVO Durian 7A1
    Memory
    8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® HD Graphics 4600
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17.3" FHD LED Glossy Wedge
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB 5400 RPM

    WDC WD10JPCX-24UE4T0
    PSU
    4 Cell 41 Watt Hour Lithium-Ion
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Air in, Air out.
    Keyboard
    Logitech usb
    Mouse
    M$ Arc
    Internet Speed
    60 down- 25 up
    Browser
    Firefox - newest
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    MBAM Pro, SAS Pro, Revo Pro.