Haven't been paying much attention to W8...

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Pretty much all I use a computer for is gaming and desktop publishing in creative suite. I tend to have tens of thousands of files that I have to search and store as well. So when I want to buy a new game like Battlefield 4 or a new software package like CS 7 I will buy it through the metro store? Will managing a huge number of files be easier with this interface?
 
No. :(

Metro is not for managing files - it is simply for consumption.

The main interface (desktop) is for that .

Unfortunately, productivity has been relegated to second place.
 
Depends who you ask....

The Windows Store will have some Desktop program offerings as well as the new metro apps. So potentially, yes, you could get Adobe software from it. I would be surprised if you couldn't in the near future as Office 2010 and WinZip 16.5 are there last I checked.

The new Start Screen isn't so much of a huge search tool, as its search bar is the same as the start menu's. But what is great in 8 is the new Ribbon UI in Windows Explorer, which is ABSOLUTELY fantastic for search. When you type in a search, it finds things faster than before. For example, I was searching for a .dll file in the Windows folder and when I typed it in, it took genuinely a couple seconds to find it versus about 6 or 8 seconds in Windows 7. Non-index searching in 8 feels snappier. Not only that, the Ribbon opens a search tool tab that helps you narrow down your search query.

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Here's a snip of the Ribbon when you search. You can narrow down a search through date, file type, or size very easily and very quickly. Using that to search through thousands of files would probably be better I'd say.
 
Or you can dual boot your system with Windows 8, kick the tires around and play with it and see if it works for you. Best way to formulate an opinion.
 
From what I can see, and I'm sure everyone remembers what happened with WinXP, the same will hold true with Windows 7. and tons of lost revenue for Microsoft. Microsoft's main problem I see if they think the human race will change for the sake of change. NOT true!! Humans don't move steadily with change, they fight tooth and nail before being forced into it. This is the main reason why Windows 8 will fail if Microsoft continues on this path.
 
From what I can see, and I'm sure everyone remembers what happened with WinXP, the same will hold true with Windows 7. and tons of lost revenue for Microsoft. Microsoft's main problem I see if they think the human race will change for the sake of change. NOT true!! Humans don't move steadily with change, they fight tooth and nail before being forced into it. This is the main reason why Windows 8 will fail if Microsoft continues on this path.

That is certainly some of the reason, but Windows 8 itself is in fact fail on the desktop. It will fail for TWO reasons. 1) It's a huge confusing change, 2) Metro is fail on the desktop.

Both of those fails are FAR larger than any of the Vista fails that nearly took that OS down (Though I personally had zero problem with it), it is a dark and foreboding future.
 
From what I can see, and I'm sure everyone remembers what happened with WinXP, the same will hold true with Windows 7. and tons of lost revenue for Microsoft. Microsoft's main problem I see if they think the human race will change for the sake of change. NOT true!! Humans don't move steadily with change, they fight tooth and nail before being forced into it. This is the main reason why Windows 8 will fail if Microsoft continues on this path.

SOME humans, that should be stipulate, resist change. Some will resist until there is no other option, some will change if there's a good reason to. If humans resisted change as much as possible, we wouldn't have the automobile as people would still use horses.

But then again, it is true, people will resist change. There are some that REFUSE to use CFL light bulbs even though they save energy versus incandescent bulbs...
 
I was going with the majority. XP was the O/S people stayed with till it's dying day, and I know of hundreds that will NOT upgrade even though Microsoft has declared that it is officially unsupported now. One such person I demo'd Windows 8 to said it was to hard to have to learn how to use the Metro interface. I even told them, their precious XP will no longer be supported, and they will not be able to get updates for it. I was told by them, if their current PC dies they will just purchase a used computer and put their copy of Windows XP on it. This is something I suggested to Microsoft before, and am re-suggesting it. Once the life time of a O/S has reached it limits, they (Microsoft) should have means to make it in-operable, so that we can move forwards. What really perturbs me is, one of the people I am talking about has 3 sons - 16 - 17 -18 years of age, and THAT don't even want to move on to a newer better version of Windows. I told the person in question their PC will work fine with Windows 8DP as is (1.8GHz - 2 gigs of RAM), as well as told them I would created a restore disc set for them, so they won't lose any information contained with in that Windows XP install, still they refuse...anyone out there with a similar problem and was able to get passed that hurdle?
 
This is something I suggested to Microsoft before, and am re-suggesting it. Once the life time of a O/S has reached it limits, they (Microsoft) should have means to make it in-operable, so that we can move forwards.

That is insane. What next. Car companies will permanently disable your car once it's reached 15 years old so they don;t have to support replacement parts n it any more (and sell you a new one)? There are lines, and that suggestion crosses it by a LONG shot.
 
Actually FSeal, my suggestion would stimulate our economy think about it, the way you are thinking, we would still be using DOS because it is still available. I say once something has reached it's full usefulness it shouldn't rear it's head any longer.
 
Usefulness to who?

1) DOS is in fact still used today in situations that call for it.

2) As if planned obsolescence and a throw away society aren't bad enough, now your advocating for manufacturers to be able to remotely disable or take back things that you have purchased at their discretion because "you've used it long enough" and need to buy a new one?

MJOF (My Jaw is On the Floor)
 
Points FSeal to the technology wastelands of Silicon Valley...There you go, the all the obsolete technology that one could EVER want. HEY, look over there! There a huge stockpile of IBM OS2 Warp version 4 FREE for the taking. :eek:
 
I showed off Windows 8 and the Office 2013 beta to a few people and customers yesterday, got the same reaction I've been overall getting from doing so: Whoa and I need a moment to take this all in. I've come across a few people that rejected it, but after I let them use it for about half an hour and gave them a few navigational tips, their opinion changed. They found that it's pretty fun to use, which is true. Every time I show how to close down a metro app, there's a whoa, or that's cool! Most of the people I've shown this have been a younger crowd, 16-28 or so.

But as for the people that cling to xp and old technology, it's strange. A few days ago, I saw someone sitting in a Subway using a laptop with 7 but running in the dreadful icky classic theme. Why? Why would ANYONE do that? You have a pretty Aero interface, but decide to yuck it up. (FACEPALM) :doh:
 
It's fine for things to have use-by-dates, as long as it is clear at the outset that they are time-limited, such as the Release Preview of Windows 8, or for a financial software package to require annual renewal of license to enable taxation updates.

I can only guess how unpopular Windows would become if the small print read that the OS would shut down every 30 minutes after a certain date was reached, unless the license was renewed and a fee was paid for upgrading. I think Linux would benefit greatly from that.

To suggest that the plug should be pulled on outdated OS versions whose licenses were sold without that provision is ludicrous and inflammatory.
 
Hardly! Going by your POV (Point Of View) why doesn't everyone stay using Windows 3 Windows for WorkGroups! Even going by what your saying, and they were kept active, then the computer processor world would of ended! *Example* Windows 3.1 will not load on a modern processor! Even though it says it will work on a 32mhz or BETTER processor. Also Microsoft gives you a better warranty that a car manufacturer, with them you get a limited 1 year or 50 thousand mile warranty. Also, I take it by your objection that YOU must be still running DOS (any version) right? :redcarded: The statement you have made, is something that someone that doesn't want change.

It's fine for things to have use-by-dates, as long as it is clear at the outset that they are time-limited, such as the Release Preview of Windows 8, or for a financial software package to require annual renewal of license to enable taxation updates.

I can only guess how unpopular Windows would become if the small print read that the OS would shut down every 30 minutes after a certain date was reached, unless the license was renewed and a fee was paid for upgrading. I think Linux would benefit greatly from that.

To suggest that the plug should be pulled on outdated OS versions whose licenses were sold without that provision is ludicrous and inflammatory.
 
Hardly! Going by your POV (Point Of View) why doesn't everyone stay using Windows 3 Windows for WorkGroups! Even going by what your saying, and they were kept active, then the computer processor world would of ended! *Example* Windows 3.1 will not load on a modern processor! Even though it says it will work on a 32mhz or BETTER processor. Also Microsoft gives you a better warranty that a car manufacturer, with them you get a limited 1 year or 50 thousand mile warranty. Also, I take it by your objection that YOU must be still running DOS (any version) right? :redcarded: The statement you have made, is something that someone that doesn't want change.


I still run WfW 3.11 in DosBox, and also have DOS 6.20/Win
3.1 on one of the hard disks in the desktop.

And, until the last re-install, it was in VirtualBox on
this machine, along with Office 4.

So yes, some do still use it.
 
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