Embedded Product Key (8.0) for 8.1 install

[SIW2]

MS don't give any useful error messages now. "Something Happened " would be hilarious if it wasn't so annoyingly useless.

At least you got a code. I think that means bcd stre is not configured/has missing information.

We can find out.

Startup repair makes a backup of bcd before repairing it. Just compare the backup with current bcd store to see the difference.

It is in the "boot" folder, called BCD.Backup.0001

 

[SIW2]

Has anybody tried it with Aomei Backupper?

 

[theog]

MS don't give any useful error messages now. "Something Happened " would be hilarious if it wasn't so annoyingly useless.

At least you got a code. I think that means bcd stre is not configured/has missing information.

We can find out.

Startup repair makes a backup of bcd before repairing it. Just compare the backup with current bcd store to see the difference.

It is in the "boot" folder, called BCD.Backup.0001

For SSR Desktop Edition:
Boots to Automatic Repair first.

View attachment BCD.Backup.0001.zip

View attachment BCD.zip

 

[pparks1]

What really intrigues me is fact that after install of 8.1 that I can no longer restore 8.0 from image and get it to boot. I am restoring the EFI partitions and everything.

I'm trying to imagine what a drive image restore is missing that manually installing 8.0 would catch. Like I said, once I manually loaded 8, I was able to restore my 8 image...no problem.

 

[Saltgrass]

Theog's BCD store backup seems to indicate it lost track of the System partition and the Windows partition and shows unknown for device and OS device which should show the System partition and the Windows partition. But opening it on my system may give erroneous readings.

Is this thread now basically about the Paragon backup software? If it is, does that software have some setting concerning Partition IDs and whether to keep them the same or not?

Theog appears to be using a Windows to Go install, so not sure if that would behave differently from a PC install.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device unknown
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-GB
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
default {default}
resumeobject {80500006-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
displayorder {default}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {default}
device unknown
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 8.1
locale en-GB
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {80500008-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
integrityservices Enable
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice unknown
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {80500006-489e-11e3-99de-d1a82af1d5ba}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard

 

[theog]

What really intrigues me is fact that after install of 8.1 that I can no longer restore 8.0 from image and get it to boot. I am restoring the EFI partitions and everything.

I'm trying to imagine what a drive image restore is missing that manually installing 8.0 would catch. Like I said, once I manually loaded 8, I was able to restore my 8 image...no problem.

Windows 8.1 back up has big problem.
http://www.eightforums.com/performa...-1-iso-breaks-system-image-functionality.html

 

[theog]

@Saltgrass
A Windows to Go was made on the test rig, therefore listed as a boot device in the UEFI/BIOS firmware.

 

[theog]

Is this thread now basically about the Paragon backup software? If it is, does that software have some setting concerning Partition IDs and whether to keep them the same or not?

Post 15

Computer won't boot on Win8 UEFI restore - Wilders Security Forums

Currently the Paragon Software current versions are not supported for the 8.1 operating system, so if you are running into issues please be aware that you have the ability to back up the OS, but you may run into issues with other operations. There will be a new version released at the end of the month, which will support the 8.1 operating system.
__________________
Paragon Software Group
Technical Support Engineer
Irvine, CA 92618
Website: PARAGON Software Group - partition manager, drive backup, hard disk partitioning

 

[Saltgrass]

It seems if you open a BCD store on another computer, it will show unknown as the actual partition in the store, so that part might be ok.

I have noticed some problems with the Windows Image backup on my system with two independent installs. It seems there could be confusion as to which install is being backed up and which EFI partition should be used. I had the Windows 7 and Windows 8 images in the same WindowsBackupImage folder (different computer names) and the Windows 7 one looked normal, but the Windows 8 one only had one file. I received no error messages when I made the Windows 8 image. This does seem to happen during the creation of newer images over prior ones, but I am now putting the images on separate partitions to see if it corrects that situation.

 

[SIW2]

@Theo, were you booted into Windows To Go to copy those bcd stores for us?

Hard to tell what is wrong with the bcd.backup.0001

Afaik, Paragon and the other thing Theog used have their own bcd editing systems, they don't use windows bcdedit.exe. If you use the windows install dvd /recovery drive, then it does use windows own bcdedit.

Just a guess, but perhaps the 3rd party programs cannot access the 8.1 efi bcd store when running in boot time mode. Could be a strange permissions issue.

 

[theog]

@Theo, were you booted into Windows To Go to copy those bcd stores for us?

Hard to tell what is wrong with the bcd.backup.0001

NO.

When you make a Windows to Go or install Ubuntu, you will have a boot device listing in the UEFI/BIOS firmware until you fully clear the BIOS by removing the battery.

 

[SIW2]

Interesting. From the BCD you posted, this is what it looks like to me:

 

[theog]

It is odd that Paragon 12 has a bigger problem with Windows 8.1, than SSR Desktop Edition has.

Looks like all Back up software needs to be tested.

 

[theog]

The new Paragon 14, works nice with Windows 8.1.
Hard Disk Manager Suite ? complete system management | PARAGON Software Group - disk partitioning, resize partition

 

[pparks1]

I just wish Paragon would get an update for the Backup and Restore product that I own. I don't have the HDM suite, so it's still not good yet for me.

 

[theog]

Paragon Hard Disk Manager Professional - Overview



Yes, A bit slow on the up take on versions.

 

[pparks1]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to take a few seconds to report that I purchased a 3 pack license for Paragon Backup and Restore 14 and this has resolved all restore issues that I had under Windows 8.1. I no longer have to manually correct the blue screen 34 error and then run bootrec /rebuildbcd after laying back down a Windows 8.1 image.

I got my 3 pack license for Paragon for $35....based on how well the software works for me, this is a steal.

 

[theog]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to take a few seconds to report that I purchased a 3 pack license for Paragon Backup and Restore 14 and this has resolved all restore issues that I had under Windows 8.1. I no longer have to manually correct the blue screen 34 error and then run bootrec /rebuildbcd after laying back down a Windows 8.1 image.

I got my 3 pack license for Paragon for $35....based on how well the software works for me, this is a steal.

That is good news.