Well i have fixed my problem. As i said my Optical drive and old hard drive were IDE, only my new HDD is Sata. I had HDD set to master and optical to slave, but LG say it should now be set to master,at the end of the line still, and the HDD set to slave in the center. I added a new 80 line cable, and set each to cable select. I have no problem now whether in Windows XP, W7, or running W8,in a multiboot. Thanks Kevin and all others for the help.