That allows me to edit the tiles but it's not what I'm after. The reason I wanted to access the now obsolete apps bar is because I heard that it provides a list of all apps belonging to an account. I have installed various apps for my son on my own login but have now given him his own login. Under his login you can't view any of the apps I installed on my windows account even though I have logged in with my account to the windows app store under his login. I know by logging in with the same account I will be able to install all the apps I've paid for for free under his login too, but I've installed loads and I just want to be able to view a list of them whilst logged into his account to make it easy to know what to reinstall for his login. I think it's crazy that windows 8 forces you to install apps for each login account, so for example if you had a family of 5 people each with their own login, each app that they all want to use would need to be installed 5 times over on the same machine - how utterly ridiculous!!! Microsoft really ought to have provided some way of sharing apps between accounts on the same machine.