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[CountMike]

OK.. then what about this? I think I may want to change more in order to cope up with the budget..
How is the SSD? I also have a doubt.. CAn I connect both SSD and HDD?
CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (You Recommend)
Power Supply: (You Recommend)

That's much better except for SSD size and maybe make. I have similar SSD just 120 GB and I'm not completely satisfied with it, Samsung Evo drives are better and cheaper.

 

[rohidroid]

CPU: AMD 4 GHz AM3+ FX-4300 FX-Series Four-Core Edition FD4300WMHKBOX
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4GB (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) x2
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (Your Recommendation)
Power Supply: (Your Recommendation)

Okay.. this goes way over the budget.. (31500 Rs..) Mine limit is 25000 Rs. = 419.358 US Dollar
Try something bit cheaper..

 

[CountMike]

CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (Your Recommendation)
Power Supply: (Your Recommendation)

Very good, now we are getting somewhere.
Now for PSU, I'm partial to Chieftec, don't know where you getting all that stuff and what's available to you. Some good brand of PSU with at least 500w rating should be quite enough, most of them that have Bronze efficiency rating, at least should do the trick. Look at some nice case (does not have to be fancy) that has places for 120 mm case fans, front and back or/and top. Ventilation is essentially for good running and long life. Some makes come with PSUs too.

 

[rohidroid]

CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (Your Recommendation)
Power Supply: (Your Recommendation)

Very good, now we are getting somewhere.
Now for PSU, I'm partial to Chieftec, don't know where you getting all that stuff and what's available to you. Some good brand of PSU with at least 500w rating should be quite enough, most of them that have Bronze efficiency rating, at least should do the trick. Look at some nice case (does not have to be fancy) that has places for 120 mm case fans, front and back or/and top. Ventilation is essentially for good running and long life. Some makes come with PSUs too.

I have edited the last post..
how about this rig?

CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350
Motherboard: (Your Rcommendation) Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 is bit costlier and I don't need Crossfire and stuff.. how about something for a low end gamer..
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4GB (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB
Video Card: Sapphire AMD HD 7770 1 GB GDDR5
Cabinet: (Your Recommendation)
PSU: (Your Recommendation)

 

[CountMike]

This one: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4298# lists only up to FX6300 but as 6350 is same core just faster it should support it. One thing about larger MBs (apart from more interface buses) is that they tend to have better power handling (VRM), more ports for more disks etc. Better VRM translates to better cooling, ability to upgrade to better CPU etc. It pays to have better MB because later on you can upgrade components easier and better OC and so can be used effectively longer time without having to change everything. It's one of things together with PSU that should not be skimped on. Better go for cheaper or even used case than to skimp on those 2 items.

 

[pparks1]

Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..

If you were discussing the convo between myself, Jimbo and CountMike, I think all 3 of us were as cool as a cucumber. It was simply a discussion.

I think SSD's are awesome, but when it comes right down to a budget rig or getting a specific price, I feel that dropping the SSD is a good choice. You can always add it later when budget allows. If skipping an SSD allows more RAM, a slightly better CPU and a better graphics card (and you are a gamer), I'd go that route every time without question.

I don't think the user needs a case, he said in the original post he was going to use his existing case.

 

[CountMike]

Guys.. This is not a war.. so discuss calmly..

If you were discussing the convo between myself, Jimbo and CountMike, I think all 3 of us were as cool as a cucumber. It was simply a discussion.

I think SSD's are awesome, but when it comes right down to a budget rig or getting a specific price, I feel that dropping the SSD is a good choice. You can always add it later when budget allows. If skipping an SSD allows more RAM, a slightly better CPU and a better graphics card (and you are a gamer), I'd go that route every time without question.

Ah, those realities of life, always have to throw monkey wrench i the works. Yes, always have to prioritize something. If games are most important and have to choose than GPU comes first. If, like me, I had to choose too, my first priority is fast, smooth working computer so SSD came before GPU. This GPU is good enough for me for now so it stays, not much gaming any more and if grandkids complain when they come, let them play with the ball, outside, it's nice weather now.

 

[azasadny]

In the past year, I've built about 50 systems for various purposes and the things I do for every system I build is:

- 120GB SSD for Win7 or Win8.1 (bootable C Drive)
- 2TB or 3TB WD Caviar Black or Red NAS hard drive for data
- Corsair H60 AIO liquid CPU cooler (whether overclocking or not)
- 120mm and/or 140mm high quality case fans

 

[azasadny]

OK.. then what about this? I think I may want to change more in order to cope up with the budget..
How is the SSD? I also have a doubt.. CAn I connect both SSD and HDD?
CPU: AMD FX-Series FX-6350 (Excellent choice for a budget gaming system, just use a Corsair H60 cooler)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB x2
Storage:Kingston SV300S37A/60G
Video Card: XFX ATi Radeon R7770 Core 1 GB DDR5
Case: (You Recommend) I like Corsair 300R cases
Power Supply: (You Recommend)

Corsair 650 or 750 watt PS

 

[rohidroid]

And this is final..

CPU: AMD 4 GHz AM3+ FX-4300 FX-Series Four-Core Edition
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2PT
Memory: Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4GB (CMZ4GX3M1A1600C9) x2
Storage: Dropped because of budget. Keeping the old one.
Video Card: Sapphire AMD HD 7770 1 GB GDDR5
Case: Keeping the existing as mobo is uATX
Power Supply: Corsair VS650 650 Watt PSU

Final budget is 25687 Rs = 430.412 US Dollar

 

[CountMike]

I don't think you'll be too happy with that processor. Old Bulldozers like that one are way under earlier Phenom II x4. If you can find a second hand (processors rarely die), you may be better off. Even Athlon II x4 750K is better but probably cheaper, at least here.

 

[Hybrid Vigor]

Looks quite nice so far.
How do you plan to cool the CPU and case?

 

[yu gnomi]

Thanks to Count Mike for his comment on Samsung Evo vs. Kingston v300 SSD's. I looked around and according to various bench-marking articles, the Samsung evo drives seem to both perform better and last longer, although the 120 GB ones seem to run about $20 more than the Kingston ones at the sites I looked at. I was originally going to use a Kingston SSD for the build below.

I have been using pcpartpicker.com and made a phony build here Intel Core i5-4690, Antec One - System Build - PCPartPicker (I over-rid many of the default vendor choices because they are outfits I have never even heard of). Here is plain text version of build:


CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $224.99 Newegg

Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $84.79 Newegg

Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $89.99 Newegg

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $84.99 Amazon

Storage: WD Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal HD $58.24 Amazon

Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case $55.24 Amazon

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX $24.99 Newegg

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) $99.99 Newegg

Monitor: ViewSonic VA2249S 60Hz 21.5" Monitor $119.99 Newegg

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Total: $833.20


The build includes cannibalizing parts from my existing pc - a relatively new SATA DVD writer, a 2 TB external HD, mouse, keyboard & speakers.

At some point in the next month or so I should have money to buy the needed parts. I won't necessarily make exactly this build, prices might be very different for one or more of my choices, or I might learn something new, resulting in me changing my mind.

What do you all think?

 

[CountMike]

Funny, around here Samsung is cheaper but not by much with Kingston Hyper X being even more expensive. Aren't you forgetting something, like video card ?

 

[yu gnomi]

I was going to run with stock graphics and stock cooling until/unless I found a need for better. I am guessing the onboard GPU should run everything currently out that I want to run. Although I'll admit that is pretty much a guess.

This build isn't really for high-end gaming, I will use it for some gaming, some programming, and whatever else I need a computer for. I want the build to still be useful, like 5+years from now. I've had my current machine for close to a decade, and I will probably keep using it as either a Linux machine, or dual Winxp and Linux, once I have a new machine built.

 

[CountMike]

I was going to run with stock graphics and stock cooling until/unless I found a need for better. I am guessing the onboard GPU should run everything currently out that I want to run. Although I'll admit that is pretty much a guess.

This build isn't really for high-end gaming, I will use it for some gaming, some programming, and whatever else I need a computer for. I want the build to still be useful, like 5+years from now. I've had my current machine for close to a decade, and I will probably keep using it as either a Linux machine, or dual Winxp and Linux, once I have a new machine built.

Intel GPUs aren't that hot item, don't think you'd be playing anything to complicated with it, for "normal" stuff I guess it will be enough. You can always ad a GPU later. 5+ years might be a bit of stretch but who knows.

 

[yu gnomi]

When I first started planning on building a new PC and toying with phony builds, I did look around for video cards I would want to install. While gathering info, I saw a comment from some random internet person to the effect that AMD/Radeon cards were the "wave of the future", because of better 'Open CL' support. I have no idea whether this was straight dope from someone knowledgeable, wishful thinking, or pure inanity. It pushed me towards looking at Radeon cards and I settled on the following one as the one I should probably get.

MSI Global R7 265 2GD5 OC

Here is a build with it Intel Core i5-4690, MSI Radeon R7 265, Antec One - System Build - PCPartPicker

I didn't include it in my previous build because the lower I keep the bottom line, the sooner I can start ordering stuff and building

 

[CountMike]

Yeh, Vid card should be fine choice. Those OEM Windows, I don't how good of an idea it is. Something about licensing and transferring if you change MB. Not exactly sure.

 

[yu gnomi]

Frankly, I wasn't sure which to get and sort of arbitrarily picked OEM because it is $5 cheaper. I am willing to splurge and get the full version.