Solved 8.1 upgrades says won't work with Pentium 4 Prescott 630

[DavidY]

Great News! Glad you got it going!

Also thanks for confirming that the 32-bit edition of 8.1 still works on the old Pentium.

 

[Wynona]

Alright, wanted to give my follow-up to let everyone know the results...

My CPU failed the last two requirements and thus would not allow installation of 64-bit Windows 8.1.

My solution:
- Formatted the HDD and installed 32-bit Windows 8 f

Looks like we've both been down the same road, Dirtyvu. My Intel DG33BU mobo/CPU failed in several areas also, so I formatted the partition of my dual boot system, installed Win 8 32 bit (full version) then went to the Microsoft store and updated to Win 8.1 32 bit.

Soooooo, now I have a dual boot system with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and Windows 8.1 32 bit. How ironic is that?

What really burns my grits, though, is that Microsoft changed specs, which inconvenienced a whole bunch of people who already had Win 8 64 bit on their "oldies but goodies" computers. And I'm guessing that probably at least 50% of them wouldn't have figured out that Win 8.1 32 bit might work.

 

[dirtyvu]

Yeah, and the worst part is Customer Support failed me. I asked them for any way to install Windows 8 32-bit and they couldn't help at all. I really hate having Customer Support based in India. They were really terrible at understanding what I was asking and it made a bad situation worse having to repeat myself over and over and me asking them to repeat themselves because I couldn't understand them. I tried the online chat support 4 times only to be "conveniently" disconnected. So then I tried only voice calling and 3 times failed to resolve the situation. And it's laughable they have these fake "American" names and fake avatar pictures, and then they spend 2/3 of the time reading generic answers from a Q&A manual.

I told them I wouldn't have bought Windows 8 if there was no way to upgrade to Windows 8.1. And that I had no choice in installing 32-bit Windows 8 since my Windows 7 was 64-bit.

 

[kmevler]

ForAnyone with Same Problem:

myold Windows XPSP3 Dell Dimension 4700 "project" computer upgraded tomax of 4G RAM on OEM Mobo (0M3918), BIOS A10 (the very last revision).generally listed compatible CPU upgrades "supported" for this systemare all Pent 4 HT 5xx, with various other sporadic reports of 6xx working.

my results:
Pent 4 HT 520: (OEM) no 64bit support, i never even tried W7 or W8.1
Pent 4 HT 541: ($5 ebay) successful W7 64bit, successful W8.1 32bit, fails W8.164bit due to lack of "PreFetchW" capability
Pent 4 HT 631: ($5 ebay) attempted w 2 different chips (SL94Y and SL96L): wouldnot boot - i have to assume this cpu is incompatible w my system. this is a"Cedar Mill" (65nm architecture) not "Prescott" (90nm)
Pent 4 HT 662: ($20 ebay) same as for 541: again no "PreFetchW" support.


so.. I doubt any compatible CPU for my system will support W8.1 64bit.


asnear as I can tell, the only way to verify a CPU's full capabilities are toactually install the CPU and run "Coreinfo.exe". this is alsoconfusing as downloading Coreinfo to desktop then R-clicking it to"run" opens a cmd window for only a split second then it is gone. Iwas able to keep Coreinfo open byStart>Search>"run">"cmd">C:\Users\(your username)_ at the blinking underline cursor fill in EXACTLY: "C:\Users\(your username)\Desktop\Coreinfo.exe then hit [enter]. this all seemed a bit redundantbut it worked (remember - I tinker but I am certainly no coder or systemadministrator). PreFetchW is toward bottom of list and will have a " -" (not supported) or a " * " (supported).
I could not find specific information regarding this capability anywhere on anysearch, including Ark-Intel. i couldonly verify this using Coreinfo.

I was using a W7 "Upgrade" license and a "Full Retail" W8.1(no attempt at W8 at any time). I also did a complete hard drive wipe w DBAN.All of this is really so I can help my mom with her W8 computer - I want to getfamiliar w W8-8.1 so when I have her hold her iPhone facing her monitor wFaceTime running, i can see what she's doing and already have some W8problem-solving experience. this is my poor-man's version of remote assistance.

i hope this helps anyone with a skill level similar to mine

 

[salargt]

i'm going to crazy CPU is pent 4 541 and coreinfo is down

install win8 64 before this but now i want install win 8.1 pro 64 from flash drive and this dam error please help me
how i can install win 8 64 bit but i cant make it 8.1 64 bit in
screenshot from program securable

and two error in installing





Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
(c) 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


C:\Users\Salar>D:\coreinfo [-c][-f][-g][-l][-n][-s][-m][-v]
The system cannot find the drive specified.


C:\Users\Salar>C:\coreinfo [-c][-f][-g][-l][-n][-s][-m][-v]


Coreinfo v3.21 - Dump information on system CPU and memory topology
Copyright (C) 2008-2013 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - Windows Sysinternals: Documentation, downloads and additional resources


Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
HTT * Hyperthreading enabled
HYPERVISOR - Hypervisor is present
VMX - Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM - Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
EM64T * Supports 64-bit mode


SMX - Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT - Supports AMD SKINIT


NX * Supports no-execute page protection
SMEP - Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
SMAP - Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
PAGE1GB - Supports 1 GB large pages
PAE * Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT * Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE * Supports 4 MB pages
PSE36 * Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
PGE * Supports global bit in page tables
SS * Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME * Supports Virtual-8086 mode
RDWRFSGSBASE - Supports direct GS/FS base access


FPU * Implements i387 floating point instructions
MMX * Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT - Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW - Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT - Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3 - Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4a - Supports Sreaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
SSE4.1 - Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2 - Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2


AES - Supports AES extensions
AVX - Supports AVX intruction extensions
FMA - Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR * Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTRR * Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE - Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE - Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
RDRAND - Supports RDRAND instruction
RDSEED - Supports RDSEED instruction


CMOV * Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH * Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8 * Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16 * Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
BMI1 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
BMI2 - Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
ADX - Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
DCA - Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C - Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR * Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR - Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR * Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE - Supports MOVBE instruction
ERMSB - Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
PCLULDQ - Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT - Supports POPCNT instruction
LZCNT - Supports LZCNT instruction
SEP * Supports fast system call instructions
LAHF-SAHF * Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
HLE - Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
RTM - Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions


DE * Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64 * Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS * Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL * Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID - Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
INVPCID - Supports INVPCID instruction
PDCM - Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP - Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC * Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE - Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
TSC-INVARIANT - TSC runs at constant rate
xTPR * Supports disabling task priority messages


EIST - Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
ACPI * Implements MSR for power management
TM * Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2 - Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC * Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC - Supports x2APIC


CNXT-ID * L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS


MCE * Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA * Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE * Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin


PSN - Implements 96-bit processor serial number


PREFETCHW - Supports PREFETCHW instruction


Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000005 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).


Logical to Physical Processor Map:
** Physical Processor 0 (Hyperthreaded)


Logical Processor to Socket Map:
** Socket 0


Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
** NUMA Node 0


Logical Processor to Cache Map:
** Data Cache 0, Level 1, 16 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
** Unified Cache 0, Level 2, 1 MB, Assoc 8, LineSize 128


Logical Processor to Group Map:
** Group 0

 

[kmevler]

salargt: again, i'm of intermediate capabilities w computer probs/diag/solving errors, but i got "not supported" for PREFETCHW capability for Pent4 541 using coreinfo (itself frustrating as it frequently flashes a results screen and is gone). neither of the 631's would even allow BIOS/boot to start on my system. (suspect fundamental motherboard incompatablility w Pent4 631 - see my previous post). W8.1 requires more hardware capabilities than W8, but seemingly maybe only for 64bit installations. this was not prominently advertised and probably is the root of lots of frustration for people who have successfully installed W8 64bit but cannot get W8.1 64bit to install. i gave up and settled for W8.1 32bit installlation and it is running wo probs

 

[kmevler]

Salargt, got to thinking more : are you sure you have a Pent4 541? My research shows that to be Prescott Family 15 Model 3, not model 4. The Model 4's are the 6x0's I think. My attempt w a 541 showed that PrefetchW was NOT supported, thus the failure of W8.1 64bit install. I'm thinking there are not any Pent4 that support PrefetchW, but I don't know how to prove/disprove this. I have never found a source to list CPU capabilities in full, other than to physically install and run CoreInfo.

Also note: your CoreInfo run shows:

"PREFETCHW - Supports PREFETCHW Instruction" not
"PREFETCHW * Supports PREFETCHW Instruction"

Note the "-" not a "*".

This means PrefetchW is NOT supported and this May be the root of the 64bit fail. That's what I finally decided was my problem. I am by no means swaggeringly confidant about any of my conclusions so any correction is greatly appreciated.