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Got ZoneAlarm Antivirus/Firewall working on Windows 8

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    Got ZoneAlarm Antivirus/Firewall working on Windows 8


    I just wanted to make a quick report that I can successfully get any version (sku) of ZoneAlarm working well on Windows 8. I have it installed now and it is functioning perfectly.

    In case anyone is interested, I can detail the process of how to do so. It is not for the install and simply make it work crowd. It's a bit of a process, you have to do this, that and the other thing, but once it is working, it is set and forget and all is well.

    So yup, if anyone is seriously interested, I'll add instructions here by request.

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    Click image for larger version

    By the way, this version shown is currently in beta from CheckPoint and is free to use for anyone interested. It has Kaspersky Anitvirus built in, like all CheckPoint software with antivirus ability.
    Last edited by GMan; 23 Mar 2012 at 03:39. Reason: typo
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Click image for larger version

    By the way, this version shown is currently in beta from CheckPoint and is free to use for anyone interested. It has Kaspersky Anitvirus built in, like all CheckPoint software with antivirus ability.
    Hey Gman,
    Not knowing that much about it, I have Norton Internet Security running. I've never considered that a firewall, although it says it is and has disabled Windows Firewall. I do like the Norton antivirus but am unsure of it's firewall, normally run Comodo on my W7.
    I guess I am asking your opinion, should I leave it as it is or add the Zonealarm firewall without the Kaspersky Antivirus (if possible) and disable Norton's firewall (if possible). Stuck in old habits!
    Thanks for the news and I know I am quite interested, no offense to any Defender and Firewall users.
    Glenn
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    Here's the thing, Glennc. I've read the thread where Brink was able to help you setup Win 8 again so you don't have corruption and things seem to be well there with your machine from it.

    So I wouldn't advise installing this is that kind of situation, because it is a beta, and it is not even closely intended for Windows 8. And you've also had a major issue previously with ZA and removal....so I'd say best to leave it off for now in your specific situation.

    To supplement what I am saying, and now this is only an opinion, but even when the best doctors or lawyers are hired, their advice is still just an opinion. I do recommend using the Norton/Symantec tool to remove what you have in safe mode. It can be found online easily by searching.

    When rebooted back to normal desktop, use services.msc to set the Windows Defender service to Auto and do the the same thing for Windows Firewall.

    Now that's a recipe for a happy machine for you.
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    To further illustrate my above points, for laughs and giggles (there's another term for that, but I try to keep it rated "G" here lol) - I just re-enabled UAC to its default setting and it messed up ZA working properly.

    I don't think it is specifically because it is set to default. I think the actual change from one setting to another (no matter what the change was) is what did it in.

    I was able to fix it again, but like I said - beta and not for Windows 7.

    None of this is a problem for me, because I leave UAC to the lowest setting anyhow under normal (non-testing) circumstances. So if anyone is going to want to try this ZA, you should be of the same type that always disables UAC to begin with.

    Limitations? baaaah
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Here's the thing, Glennc. I've read the thread where Brink was able to help you setup Win 8 again so you don't have corruption and things seem to be well there with your machine from it.

    So I wouldn't advise installing this is that kind of situation, because it is a beta, and it is not even closely intended for Windows 8. And you've also had a major issue previously with ZA and removal....so I'd say best to leave it off for now in your specific situation.

    To supplement what I am saying, and now this is only an opinion, but even when the best doctors or lawyers are hired, their advice is still just an opinion. I do recommend using the Norton/Symantec tool to remove what you have in safe mode. It can be found online easily by searching.

    When rebooted back to normal desktop, use services.msc to set the Windows Defender service to Auto and do the the same thing for Windows Firewall.

    Now that's a recipe for a happy machine for you.
    Like your style Gman!!
    And I follow your advice about me trying it out as being very risky, especially with my in-expertise. I would like to go a whole week without messing it up. Actually put CCleaner back on it and it is running like a champ! SFC errors, no more, for now.
    I will take time and try to fully understand about running a Norton AV check in safe mode, if I can get there and you say I can get WDefender and WFirewall running without conflict?
    Thanks
    Glenn
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    heh heh Basically, what I was advising was to use the removal tool in safe mode for Norton/Symantec. This will completely take it away from the machine for good.

    I've seen too much trouble from that software maker, and in my personal experience with it dating back to probably around the year 2000 or so before I knew better, it is not something you want on your machine for various performance/stability reasons.

    I do not have high regards for their solutions for other reasons as well.

    So if you do remove it, then set the Windows Firewall and Defender services to their default settings, which is Automatic.

    On the other hand, if you really like this Norton/Symantec thing, just leave it alone and see how it continues to go for you. If you have any sorts of weird issues, look at that being the culprit first.
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    I think Windows will have come of age on the day when third party Utilities are not needed at all. I have not felt the need for a 3rd party personal firewall since being behind a home router and NAT firewall (Smoothwall running on an old PII with 64MB RAM) in 2003, and then with home wireless routers, I just don't think I am exposed at all with a private IP address (see Steve Gibsons Shields Up for instance). I have had some XP machines with the Windows firewall turned off for years, and I don't often get malware - like once every couple of years or so. And I don't feel the need for antivirus since AVG2011 finished my relationship with them.


    The thing that messes people up most is Internet Explorer. Don't use it. 'Cos the hackers do.


    I now only use beta browsers - Google Chrome Canary Build - Opera Next - Firefox Beta - sometimes recent builds of Seamonkey. Browser exploits are hard to do on things that have only been out a day or two. And if they don't work properly due to their beta nature, I can always use a stable version.
    If the adblockers don't stop the cr*p, I use a Hosts file to stop bad adverts from appearing if the sites I find myself visiting appear full of flashy trash or popups - even in linux.


    I love downloading utilities, some of them from sites in Chinese, like Jeff Chan's inscrutable RW Everything and from India e.g. Vishal Gupta's excellent Puran Defrag so I don't always stay within safe limits (Check these out GMan, if you don't know them already!) - - Driver downloads are a minefield. Laptopvideo2go and Tim's Driver Guide are good to go at the moment, but good sites have gone bad in the past, and I can understand the problems with hosting driver catalogs and archives.


    I never divulge my identity online unless it's professionally useful to do so, and if there's an email there, it's not machine readable. If an address gets spammed, the spams stay unopened, and I only use webmail, so the emails are never downloaded to Microsoft's second worst offender, Outlook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    heh heh Basically, what I was advising was to use the removal tool in safe mode for Norton/Symantec. This will completely take it away from the machine for good.

    I've seen too much trouble from that software maker, and in my personal experience with it dating back to probably around the year 2000 or so before I knew better, it is not something you want on your machine for various performance/stability reasons.

    I do not have high regards for their solutions for other reasons as well.

    So if you do remove it, then set the Windows Firewall and Defender services to their default settings, which is Automatic.

    On the other hand, if you really like this Norton/Symantec thing, just leave it alone and see how it continues to go for you. If you have any sorts of weird issues, look at that being the culprit first.
    Hey Gman,
    I've used Norton since the dos days. They were great and then they IMHO went away. So I too disavowed myself from them. Using 3rd party stuff. But a while back I read that their AV was rated very high. They had a special so I bought it. Ran it on XP and on the W7 machine. Never had an issue and I like the extras. It is again IMHO nice to be asked if a program you downloaded was rated high or low. If I wanted to let it run or not. Checking on the websites I go to. This cryptic stuff (for me) like going into Windows defender to set it up site by site is not to my liking. Plus as luck would have it I had 40 days on the paid version left and they had a special on NIS. So for $20 dollars I got it with 3 licenses. Called them and told them about my 40 days and they extended my year of NIS for an additional 60 days. That is why I built a multicore machine, to finally take advantage of the features promised by windows and computing for years. It's like Windows 7 finally works like I want it to, easy neat extra features and the power not to not to slow the computer down to a crawl. I have been waiting for this experience since I put Windows 3.1 on a computer. I am behind a router, now I can't say that is set up perfectly, but that and the Comodo firewall and Norton and Malwarebytes have been keeping me completely virus free and hacked free, finger's crossed. I used to be into the neat working, copying machine code for my Vic 20. Then typing it back in when I powered up the next time. I remember when Microsoft bought Norton defrag and added it to their os. So I am kinda happy, like it is (again fingers crossed). Paranoia makes me run MSE standalone to double check Norton. SuperAntispyware to double check Malwarebytes. Weird huh! With the windows 8 machine that I built from spare parts because it got so slow as Ubuntu grew, I like it and the speed. So having 2 extra licenses it was an obvious choice. From occasionally reading reviews, the best AV changes constantly. I also have a relative in IT who is into security and he isn't really happy about my choice either, but thinks that as long as it works.... Heck, I am scrounging up a old hardrive, got macrium on and a boot disk. Found that tutorial on how to get to safe boot. I will be good to go when I get a system image saved. I will feel safer when a 3rd party like Comodo makes a compatible version for 8. Even then, when it does come out and it is figured out and running good, I don't want to spend the money for it. I will put Ubuntu back on. OS's are too costly for me. I totally skipped Vista, but got talked into trying W7 by my relative. He was right, after I learned how to make system images !
    Always thanks for your time, experienced help and style!!!
    Glenn
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    Quote Originally Posted by fafhrd View Post
    I think Windows will have come of age on the day when third party Utilities are not needed at all. I have not felt the need for a 3rd party personal firewall since being behind a home router and NAT firewall (Smoothwall running on an old PII with 64MB RAM) in 2003, and then with home wireless routers, I just don't think I am exposed at all with a private IP address (see Steve Gibsons Shields Up for instance). I have had some XP machines with the Windows firewall turned off for years, and I don't often get malware - like once every couple of years or so. And I don't feel the need for antivirus since AVG2011 finished my relationship with them.


    The thing that messes people up most is Internet Explorer. Don't use it. 'Cos the hackers do.


    I now only use beta browsers - Google Chrome Canary Build - Opera Next - Firefox Beta - sometimes recent builds of Seamonkey. Browser exploits are hard to do on things that have only been out a day or two. And if they don't work properly due to their beta nature, I can always use a stable version.
    If the adblockers don't stop the cr*p, I use a Hosts file to stop bad adverts from appearing if the sites I find myself visiting appear full of flashy trash or popups - even in linux.


    I love downloading utilities, some of them from sites in Chinese, like Jeff Chan's inscrutable RW Everything and from India e.g. Vishal Gupta's excellent Puran Defrag so I don't always stay within safe limits (Check these out GMan, if you don't know them already!) - - Driver downloads are a minefield. Laptopvideo2go and Tim's Driver Guide are good to go at the moment, but good sites have gone bad in the past, and I can understand the problems with hosting driver catalogs and archives.


    I never divulge my identity online unless it's professionally useful to do so, and if there's an email there, it's not machine readable. If an address gets spammed, the spams stay unopened, and I only use webmail, so the emails are never downloaded to Microsoft's second worst offender, Outlook.
    Hey fafhrd,
    Sound like you know what your doing and how to do it. I too don't use IE for the same reason or Outlook. Google becoming IMHO the next evil empire precludes me from using Chrome. Firefox and Tbird have been doing me just fine. I wish I had the knowledge or an expert to help me make sure my router is set up correctly. I never understood the NAT firewall concept, I don't broadcast the wireless name, use 802N with WPA2 with a very long password and mac filtering. Other than that I am beyond my depth. That is why I wish I had a trusty firewall as an extra layer of protection. Thanks for your help and experience!
    Glenn
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